Schubeck Lifter Update

Aubrey N Bruneau · 08-15-2007, 09:32 PM

Bill Brennan · 08-15-2007, 10:01 PM

Are these the new generation of lifters or are these the old original Schubecks???

Aubrey N Bruneau · 08-15-2007, 11:17 PM

They wrere made in May, 2004, Bill.

New ? Old ?
no idea
I just know that the shattered one just cost me at least another $1500...
and after sacrificing everything but my soul, so I could run this year...
there's now no chance of that happening !

Jim Hanig · 08-16-2007, 12:12 AM

Aubery Not that this will help much, I had the same thing happen to my 396 in 2000 , they had less than 30 runs on them, Yours look like the new ones, Should you get a nother set check the clearance very close ,I feel they need .0025. good luck with the 09. jim hanig

larry asa · 08-16-2007, 12:57 AM

I have two just like these. destroyed a brand new L-88 on the dyno on second pull. it will cost a whole lot more than 1.500 to fix.
Trashed: Cam
Lifters
Push rods
Pistons Rings
Block
Gaskets & labor
Larry

Mark Ruset · 08-16-2007, 08:56 AM

Has anyone every put a paper and pencil to the advantages of running Schubeck lifters say in a sbc 327 as it relates to et. I just wonder is it really worth the expense and potential destruction of a good piece.

Pelle A · 08-16-2007, 09:16 AM

Are you sure that piston to valve clearance is enough?
What about the condition of valve springs?
I would really recommend you to inspect faces of valves and valve notches on pistons for even the smallest sign of contact, especially at the cyl. with broken lifter.
The ceramics seems not to cope with any axial pounding at all.
I learned my lesson really good last season, wiping out two cams etc. etc.
Also learned that total dismantling of everything, and throughout cleaning after the failure of a Schubeck lifter is absolutly necessary, since the remains becomes an exellent grinding compound...
Schubecks seems to be great as long as they dont take a lot of pounding.

08-15-2007, 09:32 PM	#1
Aubrey N Bruneau Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: South Eastern Alberta, Canada Posts: 311 Likes: 6 Liked 7 Times in 3 Posts	Schubeck Lifter Update __________________ Aubrey N Bruneau 6409 C/S 62 BelAir sport coupe, 409 HP 409

08-15-2007, 10:01 PM	#2
Bill Brennan Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 0 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Schubeck Lifter Update Are these the new generation of lifters or are these the old original Schubecks??? __________________ Bill Brennan 1062 STK

08-15-2007, 11:17 PM	#3
Aubrey N Bruneau Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: South Eastern Alberta, Canada Posts: 311 Likes: 6 Liked 7 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Schubeck Lifter Update They wrere made in May, 2004, Bill. New ? Old ? no idea I just know that the shattered one just cost me at least another $1500... and after sacrificing everything but my soul, so I could run this year... there's now no chance of that happening ! __________________ Aubrey N Bruneau 6409 C/S 62 BelAir sport coupe, 409 HP 409

08-16-2007, 12:12 AM	#4
Jim Hanig Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Pukwana SD Posts: 860 Likes: 554 Liked 99 Times in 49 Posts	Re: Schubeck Lifter Update Aubery Not that this will help much, I had the same thing happen to my 396 in 2000 , they had less than 30 runs on them, Yours look like the new ones, Should you get a nother set check the clearance very close ,I feel they need .0025. good luck with the 09. jim hanig

08-16-2007, 12:57 AM	#5
larry asa Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 23 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Schubeck Lifter Update I have two just like these. destroyed a brand new L-88 on the dyno on second pull. it will cost a whole lot more than 1.500 to fix. Trashed: Cam Lifters Push rods Pistons Rings Block Gaskets & labor Larry

08-16-2007, 08:56 AM	#6
Mark Ruset Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Southwest Florida Posts: 263 Likes: 35 Liked 43 Times in 29 Posts	Re: Schubeck Lifter Update Has anyone every put a paper and pencil to the advantages of running Schubeck lifters say in a sbc 327 as it relates to et. I just wonder is it really worth the expense and potential destruction of a good piece. __________________ Mark Ruset 2048 STK

08-16-2007, 09:16 AM	#7
Pelle A Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 26 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Schubeck Lifter Update Are you sure that piston to valve clearance is enough? What about the condition of valve springs? I would really recommend you to inspect faces of valves and valve notches on pistons for even the smallest sign of contact, especially at the cyl. with broken lifter. The ceramics seems not to cope with any axial pounding at all. I learned my lesson really good last season, wiping out two cams etc. etc. Also learned that total dismantling of everything, and throughout cleaning after the failure of a Schubeck lifter is absolutly necessary, since the remains becomes an exellent grinding compound... Schubecks seems to be great as long as they dont take a lot of pounding.