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Old 05-20-2009, 07:03 PM   #1
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Red face I-card ??

Is IHRA using I-CARD this year ??
It's a shame NHRA turned their back on it ! I would think a sponsor would step up and cover the costs involved to run it at least at National events. Like Jeg's or Summit,Lucas, Coca Cola or someone.
But there are a lot like mine just gathering dust in a drawer.....:-)
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Old 05-20-2009, 07:42 PM   #2
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Maybe you need to dust around there, John....
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Old 05-20-2009, 09:42 PM   #3
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Maybe you need to dust around there, John....
I know your garage is SPOTLESS !!
Did you ever find those parts you "lost" on your workbench ?? :-)
More than a little dust there !!
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Old 05-22-2009, 02:35 PM   #4
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IHRA is going to run iCard again according to Tommy Dupree. The new owners of iCard were to make live data available on IHRA's website also.

NHRA needs to get their heads out of their asses and realize how important we racers are. iCard costs nothing and would make the racers very happy.
It costs nothing? Who's going to set it up and babysit it? And work on it when it goes down?

While I agree it would be nice to have it operating again, in the interest of fairness you really should have disclosed that you bought all of the remaining hardware from Icard a while back.

I'm sure that getting the system going again would make some racers happy, but not nearly as much as you so you could get rid of that dead inventory.

Posted for the promotion of full disclosure and all that.
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Old 05-22-2009, 02:59 PM   #5
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It costs nothing? Who's going to set it up and babysit it? And work on it when it goes down?
While I agree it would be nice to have it operating again, in the interest of fairness you really should have disclosed that you bought all of the remaining hardware from Icard a while back.
I'm sure that getting the system going again would make some racers happy, but not nearly as much as you so you could get rid of that dead inventory.
Posted for the promotion of full disclosure and all that.
I believe quite often the Summit FastFriends guys have done the connection at some tracks and monitored the equipment.Other than that apprently the only other thing is an antenna.
Summit could make a lot of people happy by taking it over.
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Old 05-26-2009, 12:52 PM   #6
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Don, I believe that Dan is one of the reporters for Summit's DRC. And we all love those results don't we?
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Old 05-29-2009, 01:11 PM   #7
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Don, I believe that Dan is one of the reporters for Summit's DRC. And we all love those results don't we?
Yes, I occasionally I still help out at DRC and do a race here and there. But to be crystal clear, I am here on my own and each message I post is entirely personal. I am not even an employee, let alone a spokesman.

Ken, forgive me if my reply might strike you in the wrong way. I just wanted to make sure there was no confusion about where I'm coming from.

And thanks for reading the DRC bylines!
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Old 05-29-2009, 12:56 PM   #8
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Setup and baby sit? I have set them up before and yes it does take a minute to set it up. Not much more than a minute though....
Interesting. I don't ever remember you helpng Jeff Foster any of the many times I watched him try to get the system working. For instance, did you set up the system at Brainerd? Since it's fairly close to your home base, I guess it is a track that you go to.

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I purchased the remaining inventory several years ago in order for him to pay NHRA to keep it running in 2007.
Had that actually happened, things might not be what they are today.

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I only have a few left since Hooters Cup and other series use them also. I don't care about the inventory at all. I am a racer who saw the benefit of having this information. I then devised an entire application to help racers use this info.
So I assume you're willing to give your work away, in the same manner as you want the I card to be free to all racers? C'mon, Don.

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It costs NOTHING to hook ICard into the existing computer except a few pennies of electricity. ICard even bought the tracks their own antennas years ago. I know because I was on many race track control tower roofs fixing damaged wiring. 40 feet up on a slippery roof at Englishtown soldering an antenna wire was my committment to the racers.
So are you volunteering to maintain the system for all the Full Throttle and Lucas races?

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Also Posted for the promotion of full disclosure and all that. What do you do for racers?
Don, I remember when you showed up on CompuServe one day wanting to know all about data acquisition and record keeping. You even emailed me asking me for help in how the Pro classes handled things.

I'm not about to play "Mine's bigger than yours" with you on the Internet but rest assured that there are a bunch of people who know my history and reputation. I'm very comfortable when I think of who they are and not at all bothered that you are clueless.
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Old 05-21-2009, 08:39 PM   #9
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Is IHRA using I-CARD this year ??
It's a shame NHRA turned their back on it ! I would think a sponsor would step up and cover the costs involved to run it at least at National events. Like Jeg's or Summit,Lucas, Coca Cola or someone.
But there are a lot like mine just gathering dust in a drawer.....:-)
x2, I got to use mine a grand total of 1 race! I had hoped this wasnt a dead issue. If no one from iCard is going to pursue it, I would like to formally request a partial refund. I bought mine at Memphis national event and used it on that saturday. It makes me feel like someone knew this was on the horizon and all they did was collect my money.

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Old 05-22-2009, 02:38 PM   #10
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... It makes me feel like someone knew this was on the horizon and all they did was collect my money.

Wade O
Pretty much the entire history of the thing as far as I'm concerned. There was no possible way for it to make money the way it was set up, and yet people were still promoting and selling the systems.

Not to hijack the thread, but I was at the Mecum auction in Indy last weekend. It was an unbelievable collection of lightweights, musclecars, and bunch of interesting stuff. You would have enjoyed yourself.
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