X /Stock ?

Mark Yacavone · 11-04-2019, 09:54 PM

26 lbs. per.
RWD V8, 6, or 4
Stick or auto..100# extra for stick
Around 17.00 index.
Who would support it?
Who would build one?
Who just fell asleep reading this?

stage1scott · 11-05-2019, 12:38 AM

I'm not gonna build one-or anything else for that matter but I remember having my butt kicked several times by the X/S "Horse sense" Pinto in the mid 70s in my B/S 396 L78 Chevelle. Man I hated that car! we used to call it the "horse-***** pinto" Of course this was when I raced a car that I loved, instead of studying the guide and building a car that could win-IIRC the hp factor for my iron head L78 was 415 hp at the time with stock axles and a Muncie 4 speed. I learned how to repair that 12 bolt and that trans in the dirt at midnight pretty quickly.....
it's an interesting concept though I would watch em and root for them!

Dave Noll · 11-05-2019, 01:01 AM

Why not? Yes! Rowing gears is more fun.

340Cuda · 11-06-2019, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by stage1scott

I'm not gonna build one-or anything else for that matter but I remember having my butt kicked several times by the X/S "Horse sense" Pinto in the mid 70s in my B/S 396 L78 Chevelle. Man I hated that car! we used to call it the "horse-***** pinto" Of course this was when I raced a car that I loved, instead of studying the guide and building a car that could win-IIRC the hp factor for my iron head L78 was 415 hp at the time with stock axles and a Muncie 4 speed. I learned how to repair that 12 bolt and that trans in the dirt at midnight pretty quickly.....
it's an interesting concept though I would watch em and root for them!

Yes I got my head handed to me by a Pinto at an AHRA race back then. Probably the same guy.

FireSale · 11-06-2019, 02:09 PM

Derrick Elam runs a Pinto wagon around here in D6. I looked it up and he bought it from Marty Buth. So, there are two who don't laugh at the idea. It's a W/SA. Very clean. One of the first OHC engines in a production car (I think).

Jerry Terry · 11-06-2019, 02:44 PM

I think that was Tom Rieder (Horse Sense) from Michigan I think he worked at ford or was a sub contractor for them those cars were way fast back then.

Jerry
Retired 3490 3492 STK SS SST

1matcoman · 11-06-2019, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerry Terry

.........those cars were way fast back then.

Huh?

(j/k Jerry, we know what you meant. Just got a chuckle out of what you said.)

Mark Yacavone · 11-06-2019, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by FireSale

Derrick Elam runs a Pinto wagon around here in D6. I looked it up and he bought it from Marty Buth. So, there are two who don't laugh at the idea. It's a W/SA. Very clean. One of the first OHC engines in a production car (I think).

Under this proposal, a car that was a natural W car , could drop down to X.

TGould · 11-06-2019, 07:47 PM

X/S was a 23 lb class until NHRA eliminated X,Y,Z in 1983 to make room for the FWD cars. In 1978 Stan Welch (Hobby Horse ?) set the X/S record at 15.25 and I think won the Gators one year. Or, it may have been Dan Rockwell.

Tom Reider was a Design Engineer at Ford. He and Mel Wallace, a Mechanical Engineer at Ford, formed the Reider and Wallace race team .

Billy Nees · 11-09-2019, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

26 lbs. per.
RWD V8, 6, or 4
Stick or auto..100# extra for stick
Around 17.00 index.
Who would support it?
Who would build one?
Who just fell asleep reading this?

So Mark, where did this come from?

11-04-2019, 09:54 PM	#1
Mark Yacavone Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Miles From Nowhere Posts: 7,659 Likes: 2,765 Liked 4,848 Times in 1,842 Posts	X /Stock ? 26 lbs. per. RWD V8, 6, or 4 Stick or auto..100# extra for stick Around 17.00 index. Who would support it? Who would build one? Who just fell asleep reading this? __________________ Real life never quite adds up.... Jay Farrar

11-05-2019, 12:38 AM	#2
stage1scott Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cornville Posts: 403 Likes: 1,825 Liked 106 Times in 42 Posts	Re: X /Stock ? I'm not gonna build one-or anything else for that matter but I remember having my butt kicked several times by the X/S "Horse sense" Pinto in the mid 70s in my B/S 396 L78 Chevelle. Man I hated that car! we used to call it the "horse-***** pinto" Of course this was when I raced a car that I loved, instead of studying the guide and building a car that could win-IIRC the hp factor for my iron head L78 was 415 hp at the time with stock axles and a Muncie 4 speed. I learned how to repair that 12 bolt and that trans in the dirt at midnight pretty quickly..... it's an interesting concept though I would watch em and root for them! __________________ Scott McIntyre-Cornville-retirement at last! 2015 Chevy SS. LS3/ 6 spd Stick-Wolf in sheeps clothing! Last edited by stage1scott; 11-05-2019 at 12:42 AM.

11-05-2019, 01:01 AM	#3
Dave Noll Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Div. 6, Eastern, WA Posts: 700 Likes: 2,462 Liked 225 Times in 107 Posts	Re: X /Stock ? Why not? Yes! Rowing gears is more fun. __________________ Dave Noll, E/FS ,?/SA 6526

11-06-2019, 02:09 PM	#5
FireSale VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Lakewood Washington Posts: 1,407 Likes: 29 Liked 237 Times in 127 Posts	Re: X /Stock ? Derrick Elam runs a Pinto wagon around here in D6. I looked it up and he bought it from Marty Buth. So, there are two who don't laugh at the idea. It's a W/SA. Very clean. One of the first OHC engines in a production car (I think). __________________ Dale Shearon 68 Mustang 6394

11-06-2019, 02:44 PM	#6
Jerry Terry Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 649 Likes: 6,030 Liked 450 Times in 133 Posts	Re: X /Stock ? I think that was Tom Rieder (Horse Sense) from Michigan I think he worked at ford or was a sub contractor for them those cars were way fast back then. Jerry Retired 3490 3492 STK SS SST

11-06-2019, 07:47 PM	#9
TGould Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Beaufort,SC Posts: 145 Likes: 16 Liked 32 Times in 6 Posts	Re: X /Stock ? X/S was a 23 lb class until NHRA eliminated X,Y,Z in 1983 to make room for the FWD cars. In 1978 Stan Welch (Hobby Horse ?) set the X/S record at 15.25 and I think won the Gators one year. Or, it may have been Dan Rockwell. Tom Reider was a Design Engineer at Ford. He and Mel Wallace, a Mechanical Engineer at Ford, formed the Reider and Wallace race team .