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Old 11-09-2024, 09:00 AM   #1
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Just got a msg from my division rep. to vote on lower the stk/super stk index by .20.
I must be missing the point of this. Looking around the pits and in the staging lanes I find myself as many others in the "over 65 club". How can we expect " new blood" to fill our ranks? It is expensive to race, but we all love to do it. I myself would like to see us fill the classes of Stock and Super Stock continue. Thanks for listening.
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Old 11-09-2024, 09:05 AM   #2
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How can we expect " new blood" to fill our ranks? .
you can't, won't happen. This is going to die, the only question that remains is when. My guess in 10-15 years you'll have less than half the class racers you do today. What little new blood interested in drag racing, are going bracket racing where at least they have a chance of winning money that will allow them to be more competitive. Further they don't have to deal with NHRA's rules nor take a week off of work to compete at a 3 day event where you spend most of that time doing no racing.

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Old 11-09-2024, 10:25 AM   #3
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Just got a msg from my division rep. to vote on lower the stk/super stk index by .20.
I must be missing the point of this. Looking around the pits and in the staging lanes I find myself as many others in the "over 65 club". How can we expect " new blood" to fill our ranks? It is expensive to race, but we all love to do it. I myself would like to see us fill the classes of Stock and Super Stock continue. Thanks for listening.
Is the AHFS criteria going to stay the same? Or is it going to be lowered also?
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Old 11-09-2024, 10:49 AM   #4
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Our division 7 rep is polling at the Vegas race and the word is AHFS would stay the same.
Many agree that AHFS has hurt Stock & Super Stock, and that indexes have not kept pace with technology advances and and rules changes.
Lowering indexes will reduce the impact of AHFS. I think that's a good thing
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Old 11-09-2024, 11:57 AM   #5
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1320, Some sanctioning body employees follow this forum. They do not need any help in deciding our future. If you have any negative things to
say about a class you, or anyone involved with you, wants to add to the
forum, I believe there is areas on this forum for you to participate in. We
have our own relationship with NHRA on these matters, and we don't require any outside consulting. Please keep your criticism to your own
areas of participation. Your mechanical observations amongst the Racer's
on this forum appear to be welcome. How the Classes of S/SS are run
and managed is best left to those racers. I will not require any additional
feedback about truth, opinions, or any other derogatory remarks. I am
simply asking for your positive remarks in regards to our classes

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Old 11-09-2024, 12:01 PM   #6
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I’ll continue to state my opinion where and when I choose, there is no requirement that anyone posting in this forum must be an active participant in Stock or Super Stock, if that were the case, many who reply here currently would not be permitted. No one except Ken will tell me otherwise. Now what part of the truth and the facts in my previous reply don’tt you like that you fear the NHRA will use to somehow impact stock and super stock racers?

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Old 11-09-2024, 07:43 PM   #7
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I?ll continue to state my opinion where and when I choose, there is no requirement that anyone posting in this forum must be an active participant in Stock or Super Stock, if that were the case, many who reply here currently would not be permitted. No one except Ken will tell me otherwise. Now what part of the truth and the facts in my previous reply don?tt you like that you fear the NHRA will use to somehow impact stock and super stock racers?
Wow. What a Karen..did your old lady get a hold of your computer? Surely you are not this sensitive
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Old 11-09-2024, 12:07 PM   #8
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Fix the loopholes in the system first. Agree it needs work but lowered index doesn?t fix it. To me it?s only deferred .
I guess I?ll look at how many classes are below advertised Hp then make an observation.
And to be fair, some classes need help. I get that.
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Old 11-09-2024, 12:16 PM   #9
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1320, I love Truth and Facts, when I hear them. Based on your level of
credibility on this and other forums, I'm not sure I am hearing them.
Now, unlike others on this forum, I won't engage in a battle of wits with
those that are under equipped. Now, what part of the Truth and Facts
don't you like.

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Old 11-12-2024, 06:58 AM   #10
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Great job on the data Avery, it really shows how we as a collective group can askew the data in performance when a certain percentage try to get their average below .850 so a HP hit does not come our way. When you take a look at INDY qualifying the last 2 years it would be cool to see how that data aligns with yearly AHFS data. Indy data to me would be the real performance data since the AHFS is turned off. I really believe nothing is coming from all of this, just continue to slow those cars down for the averages is the new game.
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