1982-92 camaro

racer913 · 12-06-2007, 07:35 PM

who makes the best sub frame connectors weld in or bolt in? also roll bar and 12 bolt rear?

Rich Aman · 12-06-2007, 08:17 PM

S&W for frame, torque arm and roll bar. Strange for rear. You can't go wrong.
Rich
G-H/S 86 camaro

greg fulk · 12-07-2007, 02:41 AM

2nd that ..if ya want "the best"!

kevintscott44 · 12-31-2007, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Aman

S&W for frame, torque arm and roll bar. Strange for rear. You can't go wrong.
Rich
G-H/S 86 camaro

where do you get a set of those subframe connectors i have a 1990 pontiac trans-am stocker i am running

Randy · 12-31-2007, 05:43 PM

Go to there web site www.swracecars.com

zracer305 · 12-31-2007, 10:54 PM

Get the S&W torque arm but make you own subframe connectors and crossmember out of 2x2. Everybody's running S&W but I've see some of the round tubing flex.

Rob Petrie E395 · 12-15-2008, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zracer305

Get the S&W torque arm but make you own subframe connectors and crossmember out of 2x2. Everybody's running S&W but I've see some of the round tubing flex.

I know this is a really old thread but is anybody else having a problem with S&W subframe connectors bending / flexing? Is it just the 82-92 or are the 4th gen style bending too. By reading their add and catalog it looks like some of the best of the best racers are using them so what do you think. I am going to purchace a set and a torque arm in the next few days but if they are bending maybe I should try something else. Any opinions would be appreciated or if you know of something better that would be good too. These would be for a 95 camaro / firebird.
Thanks in advance
Rob

zracer305 · 12-16-2008, 12:18 AM

I've seen some pictures of the round tube stuff bent under stress. This is on cars that run the tubing from side to side w/o bracing it. You can use the round crossmenber but, I would brace it up against the floorboard. The S&W stuff is the best and that is what most Camaro/Firebirds out there are using. I bought the S&W torque but built my subfram connectors and the torque arm crossmember out of 2x2 mild steel. If you build you own just make sure that it can move fore and aft. I also designed a front mount with 3 holes in it for adjustability. Sorry for the fuzzy picture but you can get an idea.

bobby · 12-16-2008, 08:05 AM

My wife and me are trying to sell a S&W kit for a 93-02. This is some first class stuff. We just don't need it anymore or it wouldn't be for sale. They have their whole kit on sale right now from what I understand.

Dragsinger · 12-16-2008, 11:29 AM

I am unsettled about a torque arm front pivot design. Even after talking with S & W plus other racers, I still am not satisfied that a "poly" bushing at the front pivot is best.

I keep having this thought, "when installing ladder bars or four link, we use rod ends, not poly bushings. Why should this application be treated differently?" [of course, it is understood about the need for a pivoting shackle]

I know that other designs are on the market that do not use a poly bushing. Again, this is my thought, I like the design that uses a large, solid aluminum bushing. Here is an example of that design.

http://www.wolferacecraft.com/images...arm/fbtq43.jpg

[this design has two aluminum bushings, one in the bar and one in the shackle pivot. Both have grease fittings]

Also, I think it is very important for the torque arm crossmember to be very stable. As in the above post, it needs to be tight up against the floor and welded/braced in several spots. I also agree with the above post about using 2" x 2" tubing custom fitted for frame connectors, well braced/attached in several sports.

I am interested in the thoughts of others in ref to poly bushing or "other"

12-06-2007, 07:35 PM	#1
racer913 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 69 Likes: 2 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	1982-92 camaro who makes the best sub frame connectors weld in or bolt in? also roll bar and 12 bolt rear?

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Rich Aman Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Cedar Run, NJ Posts: 38 Likes: 796 Liked 10 Times in 3 Posts	Re: 1982-92 camaro S&W for frame, torque arm and roll bar. Strange for rear. You can't go wrong. Rich G-H/S 86 camaro

12-07-2007, 02:41 AM	#3
greg fulk VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: jackson Posts: 1,165 Likes: 0 Liked 5 Times in 3 Posts	Re: 1982-92 camaro 2nd that ..if ya want "the best"! __________________ Greg Fulk 308 308X P/SA "ALL AMERICAN"

12-31-2007, 05:43 PM	#5
Randy Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 24 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 1982-92 camaro Go to there web site www.swracecars.com

12-31-2007, 10:54 PM	#6
zracer305 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 108 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 1982-92 camaro Get the S&W torque arm but make you own subframe connectors and crossmember out of 2x2. Everybody's running S&W but I've see some of the round tubing flex.

12-16-2008, 12:18 AM	#8
zracer305 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 108 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 1982-92 camaro I've seen some pictures of the round tube stuff bent under stress. This is on cars that run the tubing from side to side w/o bracing it. You can use the round crossmenber but, I would brace it up against the floorboard. The S&W stuff is the best and that is what most Camaro/Firebirds out there are using. I bought the S&W torque but built my subfram connectors and the torque arm crossmember out of 2x2 mild steel. If you build you own just make sure that it can move fore and aft. I also designed a front mount with 3 holes in it for adjustability. Sorry for the fuzzy picture but you can get an idea. Attached Thumbnails

12-16-2008, 08:05 AM	#9
bobby Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: League City, Texas Posts: 243 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 1982-92 camaro My wife and me are trying to sell a S&W kit for a 93-02. This is some first class stuff. We just don't need it anymore or it wouldn't be for sale. They have their whole kit on sale right now from what I understand. __________________ Next time wave all of your fingers at me.

12-16-2008, 11:29 AM	#10
Dragsinger VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Liberty City [East Texas] Posts: 1,759 Likes: 5 Liked 99 Times in 60 Posts	Re: 1982-92 camaro I am unsettled about a torque arm front pivot design. Even after talking with S & W plus other racers, I still am not satisfied that a "poly" bushing at the front pivot is best. I keep having this thought, "when installing ladder bars or four link, we use rod ends, not poly bushings. Why should this application be treated differently?" [of course, it is understood about the need for a pivoting shackle] I know that other designs are on the market that do not use a poly bushing. Again, this is my thought, I like the design that uses a large, solid aluminum bushing. Here is an example of that design. http://www.wolferacecraft.com/images...arm/fbtq43.jpg [this design has two aluminum bushings, one in the bar and one in the shackle pivot. Both have grease fittings] Also, I think it is very important for the torque arm crossmember to be very stable. As in the above post, it needs to be tight up against the floor and welded/braced in several spots. I also agree with the above post about using 2" x 2" tubing custom fitted for frame connectors, well braced/attached in several sports. I am interested in the thoughts of others in ref to poly bushing or "other" __________________ Larry Woodfin 471W