'70 AMX C/S or D/S

Jeff Lee · 10-14-2013, 02:23 AM

Finally, my AMX see's sunlight after 7 years! Gawd, I didn't think it was that long, guess time fly's when you have four little ones growin' up and no money! Gave the go ahead to start up the project around February 2012. Finally made it to the front of the line at the shop.

I blew off the layer of dust, washed it and even waxed it. Not a scratch on it while it sat in the barn all these years. Yes, I bonded with my AMX today...

As I had sold the Stock rear suspension (I had bought a 4-link and was going to build a serious SS chassis), I had to buy from Calvert again as I made the financial decision to go back to Stock. Funny how that kind of horse tradin' looses one a lot of money!

This Tuesday is last day on dyno then get the engine back in the car by Wednesday.

Here's the crew, left to right, Bud Yancer, Clint Yancer and me:

And here she is all prettied up!

Paul Hellenberg · 10-14-2013, 07:04 AM

Jeff

Congrats on finally getting close. I know all about the trading and changing ideas and the associated cost, been there, done that way too many times.

Wade Mahaffey · 10-14-2013, 07:31 AM

I like it....it deserves to see the race track again....it's natural habitat! LOL Need more pictures of the cool stuff!

Wade Mahaffey

JP · 10-14-2013, 07:49 AM

Feed us with more pics and details.
:-)

Jeff Lee · 10-14-2013, 01:35 PM

Here's what a "proper" stocker cam designed by Spiro Jennings sounds like through the dyno mufflers at around 2,000 RPM. This was just a break-in the cam session; one of three. Oh, cam was broke in with race springs @ 460#'s - 470#'s and Gibbs break-in oil mixed 50/50 w/ Rotella diesel oil. We've got 3 cam break-in runs of about 5 minutes each, 3 light load acceleration runs to break in the rings and I think maybe 8-10 full pull dyno runs. No wear whatsoever on the cam or lifters. Cam and lifters are coated at the shop with a compound he developed along with Tech Line.
I'm not going to post dyno #'s, sorry! But I think it will run pretty good.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSLS1fZciv8"]NHRA 1970 AMC 390 Stock Eliminator D/S - YouTube[/ame]

And here is the first or second pull. This is an old Stuska dyno. It has seen plenty of Pro Stock, Pro Stock Truck and many a Comp engine over the years, It is not state of the art but it gets the job done and the engine runs down the track just as predicted. Noteworthy to those not familiar is that the engine is manually accelerated to the predetermined RPM (still has rev limiter) and THEN brake is applied and TQ is measured on the way down in RPM. Power was no were near the 8,000 RPM we hit here, just wanted to see where it was.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TImhi1IBeQ0"]Jeff Lee - October 05, 2013 NHRA Stock Eliminator Dyno 1970 AMC 390 - YouTube[/ame]

Rod Greene · 10-14-2013, 09:49 PM

Hi Jeff, You make me want to work on my old heap. Did you notice the carb flange nut moving in the vid? When are you gonna hit the track? I may have to ride my Harley over to watch.

impstocker · 11-01-2013, 05:45 AM

Jeff,
I noticed you "retarded the timing in one cylinder" How did you do this, is it built in to your ignition, and if so what ignition? We can use it? I have a old MSD 7AL unit in my car.

No Jeff, you were not the reason I am not running a stick. I have a Turbo 350 already to go which I bought for my old 68 before i decided to run the Jerico. Its a $ thing, but i am thinking with all the $ I need to spend on a converter, maybe I can sell the TH350, buy a used Jerico... hhmmmmm....

Will Lamprecht
Div 1 big ole chevy 396-325 I/S

Rick Schilling · 11-01-2013, 01:21 PM

Number three qualifier in Vegas....-1.030!

jmcarter · 11-01-2013, 01:24 PM

Watched Jeff run 1.03 under on UStream this morning. Big wheel stand (still some correction required when he sat down-see the DRC pic of Jeff from last night) and bet he will get that fixed. Saw a puff at the line but no track clean up so hopefully no harm done. Look forward to seeing his next post.

Jeff Lee · 11-01-2013, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by impstocker

Jeff,
I noticed you "retarded the timing in one cylinder" How did you do this, is it built in to your ignition, and if so what ignition? We can use it? I have a old MSD 7AL unit in my car.

No Jeff, you were not the reason I am not running a stick. I have a Turbo 350 already to go which I bought for my old 68 before i decided to run the Jerico. Its a $ thing, but i am thinking with all the $ I need to spend on a converter, maybe I can sell the TH350, buy a used Jerico... hhmmmmm....

Will Lamprecht
Div 1 big ole chevy 396-325 I/S

MSD Grid ignition.
Yes, back to a stick for you!

10-14-2013, 02:23 AM	#1
Jeff Lee VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anthem, Arizona Posts: 2,766 Likes: 0 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts	'70 AMX C/S or D/S Finally, my AMX see's sunlight after 7 years! Gawd, I didn't think it was that long, guess time fly's when you have four little ones growin' up and no money! Gave the go ahead to start up the project around February 2012. Finally made it to the front of the line at the shop. I blew off the layer of dust, washed it and even waxed it. Not a scratch on it while it sat in the barn all these years. Yes, I bonded with my AMX today... As I had sold the Stock rear suspension (I had bought a 4-link and was going to build a serious SS chassis), I had to buy from Calvert again as I made the financial decision to go back to Stock. Funny how that kind of horse tradin' looses one a lot of money! This Tuesday is last day on dyno then get the engine back in the car by Wednesday. Here's the crew, left to right, Bud Yancer, Clint Yancer and me: And here she is all prettied up! __________________ Jeff Lee 7494 D/S '70 AMX

10-14-2013, 07:04 AM	#2
Paul Hellenberg Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: 41035 Posts: 243 Likes: 3 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: '70 AMX C/S or D/S Jeff Congrats on finally getting close. I know all about the trading and changing ideas and the associated cost, been there, done that way too many times. __________________ Paul Hellenberg 3881 SS and STK paul@hellenberg.us

10-14-2013, 07:31 AM	#3
Wade Mahaffey Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 581 Likes: 0 Liked 17 Times in 7 Posts	Re: '70 AMX C/S or D/S I like it....it deserves to see the race track again....it's natural habitat! LOL Need more pictures of the cool stuff! Wade Mahaffey

10-14-2013, 07:49 AM	#4
JP Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 125 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: '70 AMX C/S or D/S Feed us with more pics and details. :-) __________________ Facebook: Dodged Viper SS/D Facebook: Swedish Stock & Super Stock Association

10-14-2013, 01:35 PM	#5
Jeff Lee VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anthem, Arizona Posts: 2,766 Likes: 0 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: '70 AMX C/S or D/S Here's what a "proper" stocker cam designed by Spiro Jennings sounds like through the dyno mufflers at around 2,000 RPM. This was just a break-in the cam session; one of three. Oh, cam was broke in with race springs @ 460#'s - 470#'s and Gibbs break-in oil mixed 50/50 w/ Rotella diesel oil. We've got 3 cam break-in runs of about 5 minutes each, 3 light load acceleration runs to break in the rings and I think maybe 8-10 full pull dyno runs. No wear whatsoever on the cam or lifters. Cam and lifters are coated at the shop with a compound he developed along with Tech Line. I'm not going to post dyno #'s, sorry! But I think it will run pretty good. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSLS1fZciv8"]NHRA 1970 AMC 390 Stock Eliminator D/S - YouTube[/ame] And here is the first or second pull. This is an old Stuska dyno. It has seen plenty of Pro Stock, Pro Stock Truck and many a Comp engine over the years, It is not state of the art but it gets the job done and the engine runs down the track just as predicted. Noteworthy to those not familiar is that the engine is manually accelerated to the predetermined RPM (still has rev limiter) and THEN brake is applied and TQ is measured on the way down in RPM. Power was no were near the 8,000 RPM we hit here, just wanted to see where it was. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TImhi1IBeQ0"]Jeff Lee - October 05, 2013 NHRA Stock Eliminator Dyno 1970 AMC 390 - YouTube[/ame] __________________ Jeff Lee 7494 D/S '70 AMX Last edited by Jeff Lee; 10-14-2013 at 01:41 PM.

10-14-2013, 09:49 PM	#6
Rod Greene Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: TN Posts: 517 Likes: 359 Liked 204 Times in 72 Posts	Re: '70 AMX C/S or D/S Hi Jeff, You make me want to work on my old heap. Did you notice the carb flange nut moving in the vid? When are you gonna hit the track? I may have to ride my Harley over to watch. __________________ Rod Greene Real men shift for them selves. Slowly working on TA Challenger for D,E/S and a 72 Challenger for SS/K, L as if I don't have enough other projects.

11-01-2013, 05:45 AM	#7
impstocker Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Wingdale, NY Posts: 302 Likes: 27 Liked 54 Times in 16 Posts	Re: '70 AMX C/S or D/S Jeff, I noticed you "retarded the timing in one cylinder" How did you do this, is it built in to your ignition, and if so what ignition? We can use it? I have a old MSD 7AL unit in my car. No Jeff, you were not the reason I am not running a stick. I have a Turbo 350 already to go which I bought for my old 68 before i decided to run the Jerico. Its a $ thing, but i am thinking with all the $ I need to spend on a converter, maybe I can sell the TH350, buy a used Jerico... hhmmmmm.... Will Lamprecht Div 1 big ole chevy 396-325 I/S

11-01-2013, 01:21 PM	#8
Rick Schilling Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Indy Posts: 103 Likes: 18 Liked 14 Times in 10 Posts	Re: '70 AMX C/S or D/S Number three qualifier in Vegas....-1.030!

11-01-2013, 01:24 PM	#9
jmcarter VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Richmond Hill GA (and Port Ludlow WA) Posts: 4,145 Likes: 2,031 Liked 2,774 Times in 868 Posts	Re: '70 AMX C/S or D/S Watched Jeff run 1.03 under on UStream this morning. Big wheel stand (still some correction required when he sat down-see the DRC pic of Jeff from last night) and bet he will get that fixed. Saw a puff at the line but no track clean up so hopefully no harm done. Look forward to seeing his next post. __________________ Jim Carter 2340 Super Stock 2340 SST/2340 Stock