An argument you can not win!!!!

SSTRACER323 · 07-12-2010, 08:18 PM

Justin's car apparently rolled out of the beams and they red lighted him.
He jumped out of the car on the line and had words with Mr. Stewart.
An argument you can not win...........

Ed Fernandez · 07-12-2010, 10:12 PM

Thye Sombrero Kid is not one of my favorite people but in this case if the car rolled the beams "Sorry Charlie".

TS310C · 07-13-2010, 07:02 AM

where was this at, Seattle? And who is that?

SSTRACER323 · 07-13-2010, 07:56 AM

Hey Ryan

Yes it was Seattle and the driver is Justin Lamb. He runs S/G, Super Stock, Comp. His car rolled back out of the beams and then all hell broke loose....
Can't argue with the man in the straw hat..... thats a no no....

d1hitter · 07-13-2010, 08:02 AM

nice car where's the roof ?

jmcarter · 07-13-2010, 08:09 AM

Apparently both parties in this case like to show their butts in public but more so the racer. "Priviledged" racers tend to do that IMHO.

pro7474 · 07-13-2010, 10:34 PM

What a mess, everything started normal Reg Wilson lit his prestage bulb and then Justin lit his then Reg went in full stage on his side and Justin started creeping forward at this time Rick Stewart ran in front of Reg's car waving his hands and Justin saw it and thought that there was either something wrong with the track or with Reg's car. What Reg and Justin could not see was a ESPN cameraman in front of the right front fender of Reg's car with 3 bulbs lit and autostart on. Justin then saw Rick run back to between the cars so he tried to get staged as fast as he could but as soon as he moved forward the bulbs started flickering and the tree activated. Justin saw a flash of the tree so he instantly matted it and let go the button but saw a red lite and shut it off. Reg never even left the starting line even after getting a clean tree because he saw the same thing Justin did and thought Rick wanted him to stop. At about this time Rick went over to Reg and told him that he had won because Justin's car had backed out of the beam and had Reg go down the track. This is when Justin got out of his car to argue with Rick. Reg told Justin that he though that they were going to restage them and have the final that is why he never left. Was it the right thing to do? we are talking about a National event final who knows if he will ever get back to another one and on top of that there is a $8000 difference between win and r/u

Food for thought
what would have happened if Justin was lucky enough to get his car into a full stage and Reg never left the starting line? would that be fair to Reg?

But we the whole Lamb Family would like to tell Reg Wilson you drove a great race all weekend and you are now a National Event Champion. Great Job and enjoy it.

Chris Lamb
702-379-8286

lazrcng · 07-14-2010, 05:32 AM

Thank you for the clear view Chris.

Based on Chris' information Justin has a right to argue, Rick Stuart was in the right to protect the camera man and Reg's race.

IMO camera guy was the cause (wrong place wrong time - safety issue and potential distraction to Reg). Rick should ALWAYS void the process first (let the two racers know to stop, then wave the camera guy out of the way) if he sees anything that is going to potentially disrupt the race then restart the contest.

In hindsight Justin should have sit there with Reg (not taking the tree) and both demanded a clean race.

2cents!

DIAPERMAN · 07-14-2010, 05:42 AM

Come on Rick Bailey tell us your Rick Stewart story

roseracing · 07-14-2010, 07:43 AM

I wouldn't know what to do in that situation. I know that I would be upset if that happened to me.

Thanks Chris for clearing everything up. I hope someday we can cross paths again.

I think Rick Stewart made a mistake on this one. Heck, he's human too.

This race shold have been rerun.

Thanks,
Brad Rose
Rose Racing

07-12-2010, 08:18 PM	#1
SSTRACER323 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Coal City, IL. Posts: 775 Likes: 3 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	An argument you can not win!!!! Justin's car apparently rolled out of the beams and they red lighted him. He jumped out of the car on the line and had words with Mr. Stewart. An argument you can not win........... __________________ The Doughboy Lee Lones S/ST 323L

07-12-2010, 10:12 PM	#2
Ed Fernandez Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NOO JOISEY nexta NOO YAWK Posts: 5,879 Likes: 38 Liked 100 Times in 45 Posts	Re: An argument you can not win!!!! Thye Sombrero Kid is not one of my favorite people but in this case if the car rolled the beams "Sorry Charlie". __________________ Former NHRA #1945 Former IHRA #1945 T/SA

07-13-2010, 07:02 AM	#3
TS310C Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Morton, IL Posts: 323 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: An argument you can not win!!!! where was this at, Seattle? And who is that? __________________ Ryan Koener S/G 310C

07-13-2010, 07:56 AM	#4
SSTRACER323 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Coal City, IL. Posts: 775 Likes: 3 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: An argument you can not win!!!! Hey Ryan Yes it was Seattle and the driver is Justin Lamb. He runs S/G, Super Stock, Comp. His car rolled back out of the beams and then all hell broke loose.... Can't argue with the man in the straw hat..... thats a no no.... __________________ The Doughboy Lee Lones S/ST 323L Last edited by SSTRACER323; 07-13-2010 at 10:17 AM.

07-13-2010, 08:02 AM	#5
d1hitter Banned Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: @ the track Posts: 43 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: An argument you can not win!!!! nice car where's the roof ?

07-13-2010, 08:09 AM	#6
jmcarter VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Richmond Hill GA (and Port Ludlow WA) Posts: 4,134 Likes: 2,006 Liked 2,743 Times in 858 Posts	Re: An argument you can not win!!!! Apparently both parties in this case like to show their butts in public but more so the racer. "Priviledged" racers tend to do that IMHO. __________________ Jim Carter 2340 Super Stock 2340 SST/2340 Stock

07-13-2010, 10:34 PM	#7
pro7474 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 52 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 1 Post	Re: An argument you can not win!!!! What a mess, everything started normal Reg Wilson lit his prestage bulb and then Justin lit his then Reg went in full stage on his side and Justin started creeping forward at this time Rick Stewart ran in front of Reg's car waving his hands and Justin saw it and thought that there was either something wrong with the track or with Reg's car. What Reg and Justin could not see was a ESPN cameraman in front of the right front fender of Reg's car with 3 bulbs lit and autostart on. Justin then saw Rick run back to between the cars so he tried to get staged as fast as he could but as soon as he moved forward the bulbs started flickering and the tree activated. Justin saw a flash of the tree so he instantly matted it and let go the button but saw a red lite and shut it off. Reg never even left the starting line even after getting a clean tree because he saw the same thing Justin did and thought Rick wanted him to stop. At about this time Rick went over to Reg and told him that he had won because Justin's car had backed out of the beam and had Reg go down the track. This is when Justin got out of his car to argue with Rick. Reg told Justin that he though that they were going to restage them and have the final that is why he never left. Was it the right thing to do? we are talking about a National event final who knows if he will ever get back to another one and on top of that there is a $8000 difference between win and r/u Food for thought what would have happened if Justin was lucky enough to get his car into a full stage and Reg never left the starting line? would that be fair to Reg? But we the whole Lamb Family would like to tell Reg Wilson you drove a great race all weekend and you are now a National Event Champion. Great Job and enjoy it. Chris Lamb 702-379-8286 Last edited by pro7474; 07-14-2010 at 01:47 AM.

07-14-2010, 05:32 AM	#8
lazrcng Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 80 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: An argument you can not win!!!! Thank you for the clear view Chris. Based on Chris' information Justin has a right to argue, Rick Stuart was in the right to protect the camera man and Reg's race. IMO camera guy was the cause (wrong place wrong time - safety issue and potential distraction to Reg). Rick should ALWAYS void the process first (let the two racers know to stop, then wave the camera guy out of the way) if he sees anything that is going to potentially disrupt the race then restart the contest. In hindsight Justin should have sit there with Reg (not taking the tree) and both demanded a clean race. 2cents! Last edited by lazrcng; 07-14-2010 at 05:40 AM.

07-14-2010, 05:42 AM	#9
DIAPERMAN Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: ILLINIOS Posts: 715 Likes: 2 Liked 21 Times in 6 Posts	Re: An argument you can not win!!!! Come on Rick Bailey tell us your Rick Stewart story

07-14-2010, 07:43 AM	#10
roseracing Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: South Sioux City, NE Posts: 108 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: An argument you can not win!!!! I wouldn't know what to do in that situation. I know that I would be upset if that happened to me. Thanks Chris for clearing everything up. I hope someday we can cross paths again. I think Rick Stewart made a mistake on this one. Heck, he's human too. This race shold have been rerun. Thanks, Brad Rose Rose Racing