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Old 10-06-2024, 08:29 PM   #1
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Default ET with and without wheelie.

How much will a wheelie affect ET plus or nothi?
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Old 10-06-2024, 08:39 PM   #2
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Default Re: ET with and without wheelie.

My personal experience is big wheelies are faster for me. And I've heard the saying loose is fast Rear wheel 60 's for the win
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Old 10-06-2024, 09:46 PM   #3
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I borrowed a SS Camaro and co sisterly went faster by .04 when car would wheelie smack the bars a day spin the tire. Settle car down and .04 slower.
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Old 10-07-2024, 08:38 AM   #4
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Default Re: ET with and without wheelie.

When dead hooking, typically no wheelie will run quicker ET vs. a wheelie breaking the beams with the back tires which will also run a slower 60 foot by about .09.

go to 2:33:00, 5:25:00, 6:48:20 right lane. Despite appearing to break the 60 foot beam with the rear tires, it is not. We dial in the 60 foots with the front shock extension based on DA swing which is everything as it relates to ET and consistency. Our 60 foots for the entire 3 day weekend were 1.26.


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Old 10-07-2024, 02:37 PM   #5
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Default Re: ET with and without wheelie.

I've been sitting here a while deciding whether to post. I honestly could write a couple of pages but will try and keep it as concise as i can.

Though my experience was mostly in a different class, I've had this conversation with class racers a few times. It's probably going to be a very unpopular view here, but in each case I told them that wheelies simply slowed a car down. Every one of them disagreed and told me that stockers and superstockers had to do them. But wait! My opinion is only true if there are no other variables involved.

Think of the force it would take for 5 or six guys to lift the front end of the car to the same height if it was just sitting in the pits. Yes, suspension leverage will reduce that but it's still a question of straight physics. Whatever force is being used to lift the front end could/should be instead transferred to moving the car forward.

But like I said, it's complicated by variables. Forget wheelstands for a moment. Wheelspeed is everything. Period. Higher is better as long as they're driving the car and not losing momentum to excessive spin. So if a wheelie's effect on weight transfer to the rear tires keeps them from going out the window into being less effective moving the car forward, it will be an overall plus.

The people here will forget more than I will ever know about class racing. And it may just not be possible with what you have to work with to achieve tires right on the edge while keeping the front wheels dancing. But physics can't be denied, and that's the ideal case for power to the ground and acceleration.

A different class, but when I'd watch the edges of the slicks quiver all the way through first gear I knew it was going to be a good run.
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Old 10-07-2024, 03:30 PM   #6
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Default Re: ET with and without wheelie.

Back in the eighties I was running a SS/BA Corvette that did big wheelies and was told by most that l needed to calm it down some with limiters, etc. I tried several ways of keeping the front end on the ground but they all hurt the ET so I went back to letting it get pretty high and never looked back.

I would explain my theory but might get beat up by a physics major.
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Old 10-07-2024, 07:48 PM   #7
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How much will a wheelie affect ET plus or nothi?
I'm replying to the OP & no one else.

Our car is slightly quicker when set-up for a smaller the wheelie than a big one.

As for no wheelie our car is considerably slower.

Your results may vary.
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Old 10-07-2024, 08:31 PM   #8
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Default Re: ET with and without wheelie.

SS/AH cars don't wheelie too high, but A. Lincoln Morehead's Camaro reaches for the sky every pass and is bad fast. Every car is different, but I must say Calvert bars changed Stock Eliminator forever.
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Default Re: ET with and without wheelie.

clueless replies here from a few that think they know.
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Old 10-07-2024, 10:07 PM   #10
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SS/AH cars don't wheelie too high, but A. Lincoln Morehead's Camaro reaches for the sky every pass and is bad fast. Every car is different, but I must say Calvert bars changed Stock Eliminator forever.
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