Len Imbrogno.....Seriously now

Jim Wahl · 06-02-2007, 01:56 PM

Len, This is a serious question. Where does the $100 million in cash go, and what is it to be used for? Inquiring minds want to know.

I have made several calls and nobody can answer me?

Jim Wahl
6 Time National record Holder
2239 BF/S
I miss Buster Couch also! 'cause Div.2 will always be "Buster's Rebels"

Dennis P Chapman · 06-02-2007, 02:33 PM

Good question Jim thats a lot of money.

Dennis
1904 BF/S

06-02-2007, 04:39 PM

i will ": GUESS" 60-65 % goes in wally's pocket .
the rest s[lit between those in "power"

jim

Len Imbrogno · 06-02-2007, 10:16 PM

Jim, Dennis, Jims86,

The 100 million goes to the NHRA and will be used to fund the organization in its ongoing role in running amateur and sportsman racing indefinitely.
One factor that many peope do not clearly understand is the fact no one person or persons and/or or no group owns NHRA; never have and never will! (unlike the new NHRA Pro Racing company)
The NHRA will continue to be a 501C non profit corporation.
As examples, the NRA (National Rifle Association), the AARP, The Christian Coalition and other such types of organizations are all 501C corporations. No one owns them and nobody has a right to their funds. However, all of these organizations need money to operate and sustain life, and do hold substantial funds to keep such organizations solvent. Contrary to what many think, it takes milliions to fund the entire sportsman side of the NHRA. When you look at the overhead expense it takes to fund all the departments such as licensing, membership, field marketing, tehcnical services, field services, I.T., youth and education programs, seven division offices, member track programs, travel and hundreds of employees, the overhead expense is stagering.
Not unlike any other non profit organization, the 100 million will help fund the NHRA on indefinitly and keep Wally's dream alive. NHRA Sportsman Racing is here to stay and to continue to grow well into the future.

Len Imbrogno
NHRA Director of Sportsman Racing

Bruce Fulper · 06-02-2007, 10:55 PM

NHRA - I love you man !!!!

Ed Fernandez · 06-03-2007, 12:20 AM

Len;
Being from New Jersey I tend to be skeplical about people in authority having access to large sums of money,just read the papers about our run amok politicians.Did NHRA unload the Fart Pipes on the new owners?Also is there any talk about raising payouts down the line,not just final rd. money?How about expanding Sports Nats. to all divisions with a TV package with Masters Prod.?How about pressuring
divisional tracks to use the media to publicize div. races?My home track (OB Twp RP) seems to give a rats *** about bringing spectators in to our div. race.
Just a few questions till our next phone conversaton.

Ed F.
15 T/SA
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Adger Smith · 06-03-2007, 12:43 AM

OK guys, see this is being sold in a very slick manner.
I'm not buying what Len has been told to tell us. Do the math. Does NHRA have a 3 million dollar a year overhead for the license & certification dept. I don't think so? If it is contract it out. I bet someone could run that department & make a fair living for less. That should be a real money maker for them even without adding in all the money they get for the "Approved Alternate Sanction Organizations" You know all those other guys that don't fit in NHRA's rule structure.(hey guys, there are a bunch of them too) There are even more areas/ departments that help dollars flow in. Come on Len, Tell your bosses we have already listened to this song before. Things are being changed, so change the retoric. I guess we look like a bunch of 3 rd graders to the management of NHRA. Well, I guess it's time for recess, or at this hour "Good Night".

Adger Smith

T Hall · 06-03-2007, 08:46 AM

Who cares about spectators if you are a racer? Quit crying about all this crap and race or dont race!
It realy isnt that big of a deal. You either like or or quit!
I have never before seen so many conspericy theorist in my life.

Bruce Noland · 06-03-2007, 09:48 AM

SHOW ME THE MONEY!

Len Imbrogno · 06-03-2007, 10:12 AM

Adger,

Let me make one thing perfectly clear to you: I have not been told to tell anyone anything. What I have posted on this website is information beyond what NHRA's official statements have so far disclosed. Perhaps I should state as Travis has stated in the past: "this is my personal opinion".
Considering the fact that I was responsible for overseeing the budgets for all seven divisions, I have a fair understanding of the overall costs vs revenue with regards to sportsman racing. You are intitled to your own un-informed opinion and we will leave it at that.
Regarding alternative sanctioning organizations, they generate zero revenue for NHRA, yet many of them umbrella their activities under NHRA rules, regulations, policies and procedures; In many cases because of insurance requirements. Any dealings that alternative sanctioning bodies have, such as track rentals etc, are with the individual NHRA member tracks, not the NHRA.
I will close by saying that, "in my opinion", this new arrangment will in the long run, benefit sportsman racing simply because there will be a positive pull-through effect. As the professional side expands commercialy and the NHRA brand grows and becomes a bigger player in the world of motorsports and motorsports marketing, NHRA sportsman racing can only also benefit.

Len Imbrogno
NHRA Director of Sportsman Racing

06-02-2007, 01:56 PM	#1
Jim Wahl Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Central Florida Posts: 5,842 Likes: 631 Liked 674 Times in 122 Posts	Len Imbrogno.....Seriously now Len, This is a serious question. Where does the $100 million in cash go, and what is it to be used for? Inquiring minds want to know. I have made several calls and nobody can answer me? Jim Wahl 6 Time National record Holder 2239 BF/S I miss Buster Couch also! 'cause Div.2 will always be "Buster's Rebels" __________________ Jim Wahl....NHRA #2239 S/SS - IHRA # 8 Stock, D2 Stock Champion (forever I guess) 2019 Baby Gators Stock Champion 2009 D2 National Open Stock Champion 1981 D2 West Palm Beach LDRS SS Runner Up Past President, Southern Stock / Super Stock Association.

06-02-2007, 10:16 PM	#4
Len Imbrogno Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 40 Likes: 1 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Jim, Dennis, Jims86, The 100 million goes to the NHRA and will be used to fund the organization in its ongoing role in running amateur and sportsman racing indefinitely. One factor that many peope do not clearly understand is the fact no one person or persons and/or or no group owns NHRA; never have and never will! (unlike the new NHRA Pro Racing company) The NHRA will continue to be a 501C non profit corporation. As examples, the NRA (National Rifle Association), the AARP, The Christian Coalition and other such types of organizations are all 501C corporations. No one owns them and nobody has a right to their funds. However, all of these organizations need money to operate and sustain life, and do hold substantial funds to keep such organizations solvent. Contrary to what many think, it takes milliions to fund the entire sportsman side of the NHRA. When you look at the overhead expense it takes to fund all the departments such as licensing, membership, field marketing, tehcnical services, field services, I.T., youth and education programs, seven division offices, member track programs, travel and hundreds of employees, the overhead expense is stagering. Not unlike any other non profit organization, the 100 million will help fund the NHRA on indefinitly and keep Wally's dream alive. NHRA Sportsman Racing is here to stay and to continue to grow well into the future. Len Imbrogno NHRA Director of Sportsman Racing __________________ Len Imbrogno

06-03-2007, 12:20 AM	#6
Ed Fernandez Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NOO JOISEY nexta NOO YAWK Posts: 5,879 Likes: 38 Liked 100 Times in 45 Posts	Len; Being from New Jersey I tend to be skeplical about people in authority having access to large sums of money,just read the papers about our run amok politicians.Did NHRA unload the Fart Pipes on the new owners?Also is there any talk about raising payouts down the line,not just final rd. money?How about expanding Sports Nats. to all divisions with a TV package with Masters Prod.?How about pressuring divisional tracks to use the media to publicize div. races?My home track (OB Twp RP) seems to give a rats *** about bringing spectators in to our div. race. Just a few questions till our next phone conversaton. Ed F. 15 T/SA Powered by Social Security __________________ Former NHRA #1945 Former IHRA #1945 T/SA

06-03-2007, 12:43 AM	#7
Adger Smith VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Texarkana Ark/TX Posts: 2,370 Likes: 471 Liked 696 Times in 271 Posts	OK guys, see this is being sold in a very slick manner. I'm not buying what Len has been told to tell us. Do the math. Does NHRA have a 3 million dollar a year overhead for the license & certification dept. I don't think so? If it is contract it out. I bet someone could run that department & make a fair living for less. That should be a real money maker for them even without adding in all the money they get for the "Approved Alternate Sanction Organizations" You know all those other guys that don't fit in NHRA's rule structure.(hey guys, there are a bunch of them too) There are even more areas/ departments that help dollars flow in. Come on Len, Tell your bosses we have already listened to this song before. Things are being changed, so change the retoric. I guess we look like a bunch of 3 rd graders to the management of NHRA. Well, I guess it's time for recess, or at this hour "Good Night". Adger Smith __________________ Adger Smith (Former SS)

06-03-2007, 08:46 AM	#8
T Hall Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Columbus,Ohio Posts: 390 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Who cares about spectators if you are a racer? Quit crying about all this crap and race or dont race! It realy isnt that big of a deal. You either like or or quit! I have never before seen so many conspericy theorist in my life. __________________ Tony Hall 3545 S/ST

06-02-2007, 02:33 PM	#2
Dennis P Chapman Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 10 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Good question Jim thats a lot of money. Dennis 1904 BF/S

06-02-2007, 04:39 PM	#3
jims86tbird Guest Posts: n/a	i will ": GUESS" 60-65 % goes in wally's pocket . the rest s[lit between those in "power" jim

06-02-2007, 10:55 PM	#5
Bruce Fulper Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: So. Cal. Posts: 651 Likes: 4 Liked 54 Times in 33 Posts	NHRA - I love you man !!!!

06-03-2007, 09:48 AM	#9
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	SHOW ME THE MONEY! __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK

06-03-2007, 10:12 AM	#10
Len Imbrogno Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 40 Likes: 1 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Adger, Let me make one thing perfectly clear to you: I have not been told to tell anyone anything. What I have posted on this website is information beyond what NHRA's official statements have so far disclosed. Perhaps I should state as Travis has stated in the past: "this is my personal opinion". Considering the fact that I was responsible for overseeing the budgets for all seven divisions, I have a fair understanding of the overall costs vs revenue with regards to sportsman racing. You are intitled to your own un-informed opinion and we will leave it at that. Regarding alternative sanctioning organizations, they generate zero revenue for NHRA, yet many of them umbrella their activities under NHRA rules, regulations, policies and procedures; In many cases because of insurance requirements. Any dealings that alternative sanctioning bodies have, such as track rentals etc, are with the individual NHRA member tracks, not the NHRA. I will close by saying that, "in my opinion", this new arrangment will in the long run, benefit sportsman racing simply because there will be a positive pull-through effect. As the professional side expands commercialy and the NHRA brand grows and becomes a bigger player in the world of motorsports and motorsports marketing, NHRA sportsman racing can only also benefit. Len Imbrogno NHRA Director of Sportsman Racing __________________ Len Imbrogno