Michigan RV's + Trailer Length Warning

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by SS Engine Guy

Actually Ed I see you are a "gun guy" yourself. I use the Mod. 29 pre lock for shooting 100 yd. plate matches. If you rely on someone else for your saftey I would hate to take that chance unless I was the type that couldn't take up for myself. Don't beat up on me because of my "cute" name.

All of us don't have the option of defending ourselves,either by choice or by local gov't mandate.It's something I wouldn't have to resort to.Only as a last resort.We need law enforcement officers and the vast majority are there to do their job.As far as issuing
tickets,it's mandated by either upper management or politicians as a sorce of revenue.
So don't beat up on the copos because you got hassled by one.Remember,there's your side,his side,and the truth somewhere in between.
BTW,I like my 1991A1 and 3" Charter Arms 44 special.

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by fredjohnston

X-Tech guys wants everyone to race like they did in the 70s....tow bars and wheel hubs. The elite racers would have a home built open trailer.

Racer cars would have white side walls on the slicks also.

White side walls...really??? Fred, I think you're getting out there in left field with that one?

I think what he's talking about isn't that far back in time, but the not so recent past when racers carried only one car in one trailer (open like mine, or closed and no longer than 28'), that was towed by either a full sized pickup, or a Suburban? I know that more cars would fit into Bandimere Speedway (without needing the dreaded "North 40"), if rigs of such were the norm, and not visions of the past??? Besides, the 70's weren't so bad...We sure cared more about "MADE IN THE USA" then, thus a lot more people were able to go racing, than nowadays!!!

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

All of us don't have the option of defending ourselves,either by choice or by local gov't mandate.It's something I wouldn't have to resort to.Only as a last resort.We need law enforcement officers and the vast majority are there to do their job.As far as issuing
tickets,it's mandated by either upper management or politicians as a sorce of revenue.
So don't beat up on the copos because you got hassled by one.Remember,there's your side,his side,and the truth somewhere in between.
BTW,I like my 1991A1 and 3" Charter Arms 44 special.

I like my stainless steel Mossberg 500 pump with 00 Buck. Short barrel, pistol grip and I dont even have to aim. I keep telling you Ed you need to talk moma into moving to a non communist state so you can carry. The bad guys wont wait until you call for the law.

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by Michael Beard

Yeah, who would want to race like they did in the stone ages? We're entitled to do more, with more, with no regard to the consequences...

Every penny of the car, truck, and trailer is paid for. Gets good mileage, can park anywhere, no hassles, etc., so I can afford to race. I had more than one guy come up to me at Michigan this weekend, surprised that I didn't have a huge rig, since they "see me in all the magazines". They expressed their appreciation for doing it the way I do.

Nice looking operation Mike! Yours is what X-Tech Man is talking about. If more of us would haul our cars like you do, then there would be more space in the pits for more racer operations. Although I don't have the full size truck like you do, my Colorado has hauled my car from Denver to Brainerd, and from Phoenix to Bakersfield, and several places inbetween both locales. Moreover, if my initial neighbors at this years Tucson divisional would've had a smaller rig, then they wouldn't have needed to park their car so close to the line separating my pit spot from theirs. Thus when the guys wife opened his right side door to help back up their car, it wouldn't have come across my fender like it did (thank GOD for the molding on my car that kept their door from trading paint with mine! I'm glad he apologized to me for her, because she didn't even have the decency to say she was sorry for her oversight...pit spaces are only so big, but racer rigs are getting larger and larger all of the time...forget the pro's squeezing us out of big races, those big rigs are doing enough of it themselves already!

Originally Posted by Steve Williams

It is not the law enforcement officers fault he or she has to enforce a poorly written law. Your complaint is with the people that took the State of MI Bill and passed it into law. Next time you come into to town, go over and do some shopping off the Davison Fwy and see if your car is their when you come back or if you manage to escape with your life after you get robbed at gunpoint. Call 911 and ask for the "just plain worthless Tax people with guns" and see if they can come out and help you. I find the comments offensive and disturbing.

In a life or death situation you have seconds when the tax collectors with guns are minutes away....Who are you kidding...you are a mis informer!

[Ed Carpenter]

Originally Posted by Jason Fuller

Offensive? =(

How about calling them what they really are...Tax people with guns! Or just plain
worthless...

Mr. Fuller how many traffic stops have you conducted on the side of the road in the middle of the night? If you ever had you would have a whole new appreciation for what law enforcement officers do.

Ed Carpenter

Texas Highway Patrol

Corporal III

PS I will be at the IHRA D4 Crandall race in September if you care to find me we can discuss this further in person.

[Mike Fuller]

FYI dueces wild, this link will show you just who has the most dangerous jobs.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/galleri...angerous-jobs/

[Bob Pagano]

It must run in the family

[John Kelley]

Originally Posted by Mike Fuller

FYI dueces wild, this link will show you just who has the most dangerous jobs.

Now I see where Jason gets it...........SO SAD.....

[Steve Williams]

Originally Posted by Jason Fuller

In a life or death situation you have seconds when the tax collectors with guns are minutes away....Who are you kidding...you are a mis informer!

Jason,

I believe that I am more than qualified to speak on law enforcement matters and the enforcement of CDL licenses and commercial vehicles.. I enforced these laws, however vague they may be, because it was my job. I did this for over 20 years. The federal government started this program about 15 years ago and there is funding that goes to states that participate in the education of law enforcement officers for the very purpose of taking out the bad apples that traverse our country everyday. Most of the safety laws concerning the vehicles is pretty sound. The portions of law that concern over length, who needs a CDL based upon the use of vehicle and what exactly defines these matters is not clear. In large police departments, they have dedicated units that enforce these laws. In smaller departments they send a few to these classes and they enforce part time due to man power issues. These units or individuals, who enforce these laws are educated with whatever laws that passed from sub par bills. Now if you think for a minute that when the stink hits the fan, that these law enforcement officers will not respond to any matter regardless if it is a major incident or a minor accident then you are sadly mistaken. They are out there their every day and night doing their jobs, whatever they might be, not for personal gain but to provide a piece of mind for their residents and that they will look out for their well being. I won't defend the crummy laws surrounding these issues, but it is someones job to enforce them because it is their mandate. The only way to make the necessary change, is for persons like Mr. Mackie to pursue the appeal process and get in touch with their state politicians and discuss these incidents. It is a pain in the *** to do these things, but it will never change if apathy is applied to these incidents. In conclusion, I state that it is you Sir that is misinformed. Good luck with your anarchistic views, it will take you far. I will be at Bowling Green, Indy and Belle Rose in the coming weeks if you wish to persuade me to your way of thinking. Better yet, don't waste your time on me, I won't change my way of thinking or misinforming others.

Steve Williams