rear floor material question

will prater · 12-02-2007, 11:42 AM

I need some clarification of the material used between the rear frame rails for SS car. When moving and replacing the rear frame rails does the original material need to be sectioned and reinstalled to be legal for SS. In this case it is a '68 Dart which would be the big ugly deep spare tire well.

thanks

Stewart Way · 12-02-2007, 11:54 AM

As it says in the rulebook , between the framerails you must keep the stock floorboard in the stock location. The spare tire well must stay.
Good luck with the Dart. I'm doing another Cuda right now. Can't decide if I'm going to move the stock rails or use round tubing.
What class you building for and what rear suspension will you run?

will prater · 12-02-2007, 02:55 PM

Stewart, I am looking at JA. I am going to use the caltrac split mono that is on the car. We are going to either move the rails in or replace them. I am using a 12x 30 now but it is a tight fit. I think that will be enough tire for J but if not we want the ability to go with a 13x31.

Stewart Way · 12-02-2007, 05:47 PM

Will
Sounds like we are looking at close to the same package. I'm going to run GT/EA with the 383 in a 68 Cuda. I am still kicking around the Caltracs. If I use Caltracs I will use the stock rails but likely moved in just incase I need more room. Car goes to the blaster this week, then I'll have to decide Caltrac or 4 link. The rear already has 4 link at about 24" spacing so I could still use it with the leafs under the rails at about 28-30" and still hang front 4 link mounts in the car. The Cuda has a little over 15" from rail to the inside of the quarter panel. Guess, like you, I would be limited to 12" without moving the rails.
Give me a number wher I can reach you. Kick some things around.
Stewart

Chris DeGidio · 12-02-2007, 06:34 PM

FWIW,I use a 15x12 wheel,6.5" b/s with either a 13x31 or 12.2x31.25 Phoenix and stock frame rails in the OE location.Car is 1971 Demon.I also ran the same combo on a 1969 'Cuda.

Bill Moulding · 12-02-2007, 08:04 PM

Will
I went thru this in 02 with my Camaro. Had it filled with flat metal of the same guage and was told no way. Unfortunately I had discarded all the metal from the original car so I had to buy another one just to get the section from the back to fill in between the frame rails. Would have been a lot easier to do when I was building the car than it was to fill it in afterwards. Good question and good advice from Stewart.

Bill

will prater · 12-02-2007, 08:50 PM

Chris- thanks for the info. It may help Stewart. The Dart must be slightly smaller. I would like to use the 12.2 x31.25w if I could. With the rails moved or replaced I can.

Bill- I had already cut out the tire well and was going to sell it to someone needing it for restoration. After re-reading my old rule book I noticed the requirement. Luckily it was still in the shop. I was hoping the rule might have changed in the past year.

Stewart- you can catch me Sunday and Monday after 9pm Central at 417-359-8309

Thanks

Stewart Way · 12-07-2007, 10:05 AM

Will
Give me another time when I can reach you. Got tied up on a Home project, sorry.
Stewart

will prater · 12-07-2007, 10:45 PM

Stewart, should be home all day Saturday except evening and all day Sunday.

12-02-2007, 11:42 AM	#1
will prater Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Carthage, MO Posts: 108 Likes: 2 Liked 7 Times in 4 Posts	rear floor material question I need some clarification of the material used between the rear frame rails for SS car. When moving and replacing the rear frame rails does the original material need to be sectioned and reinstalled to be legal for SS. In this case it is a '68 Dart which would be the big ugly deep spare tire well. thanks

12-02-2007, 11:54 AM	#2
Stewart Way Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Atlanta Posts: 476 Likes: 20 Liked 70 Times in 22 Posts	Re: rear floor material question As it says in the rulebook , between the framerails you must keep the stock floorboard in the stock location. The spare tire well must stay. Good luck with the Dart. I'm doing another Cuda right now. Can't decide if I'm going to move the stock rails or use round tubing. What class you building for and what rear suspension will you run?

12-02-2007, 02:55 PM	#3
will prater Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Carthage, MO Posts: 108 Likes: 2 Liked 7 Times in 4 Posts	Re: rear floor material question Stewart, I am looking at JA. I am going to use the caltrac split mono that is on the car. We are going to either move the rails in or replace them. I am using a 12x 30 now but it is a tight fit. I think that will be enough tire for J but if not we want the ability to go with a 13x31.

12-02-2007, 05:47 PM	#4
Stewart Way Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Atlanta Posts: 476 Likes: 20 Liked 70 Times in 22 Posts	Re: rear floor material question Will Sounds like we are looking at close to the same package. I'm going to run GT/EA with the 383 in a 68 Cuda. I am still kicking around the Caltracs. If I use Caltracs I will use the stock rails but likely moved in just incase I need more room. Car goes to the blaster this week, then I'll have to decide Caltrac or 4 link. The rear already has 4 link at about 24" spacing so I could still use it with the leafs under the rails at about 28-30" and still hang front 4 link mounts in the car. The Cuda has a little over 15" from rail to the inside of the quarter panel. Guess, like you, I would be limited to 12" without moving the rails. Give me a number wher I can reach you. Kick some things around. Stewart

12-02-2007, 06:34 PM	#5
Chris DeGidio Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 364 Likes: 8 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: rear floor material question FWIW,I use a 15x12 wheel,6.5" b/s with either a 13x31 or 12.2x31.25 Phoenix and stock frame rails in the OE location.Car is 1971 Demon.I also ran the same combo on a 1969 'Cuda. __________________ Nautilus Racing

12-02-2007, 08:04 PM	#6
Bill Moulding Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 58 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: rear floor material question Will I went thru this in 02 with my Camaro. Had it filled with flat metal of the same guage and was told no way. Unfortunately I had discarded all the metal from the original car so I had to buy another one just to get the section from the back to fill in between the frame rails. Would have been a lot easier to do when I was building the car than it was to fill it in afterwards. Good question and good advice from Stewart. Bill

12-02-2007, 08:50 PM	#7
will prater Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Carthage, MO Posts: 108 Likes: 2 Liked 7 Times in 4 Posts	Re: rear floor material question Chris- thanks for the info. It may help Stewart. The Dart must be slightly smaller. I would like to use the 12.2 x31.25w if I could. With the rails moved or replaced I can. Bill- I had already cut out the tire well and was going to sell it to someone needing it for restoration. After re-reading my old rule book I noticed the requirement. Luckily it was still in the shop. I was hoping the rule might have changed in the past year. Stewart- you can catch me Sunday and Monday after 9pm Central at 417-359-8309 Thanks

12-07-2007, 10:05 AM	#8
Stewart Way Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Atlanta Posts: 476 Likes: 20 Liked 70 Times in 22 Posts	Re: rear floor material question Will Give me another time when I can reach you. Got tied up on a Home project, sorry. Stewart

12-07-2007, 10:45 PM	#9
will prater Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Carthage, MO Posts: 108 Likes: 2 Liked 7 Times in 4 Posts	Re: rear floor material question Stewart, should be home all day Saturday except evening and all day Sunday.