motor home safety

craiger · 03-27-2016, 07:38 AM

In regard to Mr. Teuton's recent accident I believe we need to look very hard at the structural integrity of the toters and rv everyone is using. This accident is a warning to us all. These vehicles have no structure to withstand impact at all, save for fibreglass sheets that blow apart rather easily. My class C mh has three 2" chrome moly roll bars built in but it's the only brand I know of that has this feature and it was double the money of all the other brands. (only bought it because late wife insisted, due to grandkids traveling with us) It is time that we insist on more safety features before any more accidents occur.

mykids · 03-27-2016, 09:22 AM

Craiger: I hope if you are a racer you only tow an open all aluminum trailer behind you with a class C as the E-450 Chassis is GVWR at 14,500 lbs as I recall. I think the C's are limited to about 4000-5000 lbs pay load. That is why a majority of the people tow with a Diesel pusher or a Toter. Even the Class A Gas Coaches are over the GCVW if towing an enclosed trailer with a door car not to mention a golf cart or other type of pit transportation other than a scooter etc. We have serious choices to make when deciding on the rig we use. Just so glad Mr. Jeff is getting better - Bob

JWhalen58 · 03-27-2016, 10:12 AM

Rig has nothing to do with it. Tire failure is going to happen, just a question of when. We run a TPMS system on our motor home tires and our trailer tires. It constantly monitors air pressure and temperature. If one of the two varies a little bit an alarm will sound and gives me time to slow down to minimize the problem or more likely to get tires aired up so the heat won't build up and cause tire failure. Only cost about $350 and gives us peace of mind. As my son told me the best money I have spent.

mykids · 03-27-2016, 10:53 AM

I think the rig does have something to do with it not in Mr.Jeff's case as he probably had 22.5 rubber - however some of the smaller RV's start with 19.5 rubber - I do agree three is alway's a certain amount of tire failure that happens - Hope everyone has a Great Easter

Jeff Teuton · 03-27-2016, 12:51 PM

Don't everyone get all concerned. You have to remember what you have seen on my rig was after one hour of fireman cutting me out which I think they came in from both sides, and then some 8 hours of big wreckers pulling, dragging, and otherwise finishing it off. It was a total anyway as is the trailer. What I had was a Class 8 truck built in a Day Cab configuration. It had a 16K front axle and 40K rear axle capacity which means a 56,000 Lb GVW. Double frame (C channel inside another C channel) and a big bore motor which means it had hd crossmembers and the motor itself becoming strongest. The front was fiberglass and the cab was aluminum. All NRC conversions are steel frame built on the chassis and reinforced in critical places such as slide outs, windows, etc. The front axle is what the industry calls a Set Forward Axle which is what all big trucks used to be, but turning considerations, axle placement etc have evolved into most trucks are now Set Back Axle. The Columbia Freightliner is a SBA, while the Coronado is a SFA. It is very hard to run in the woods at 70 MPH and not expect this. I now have pictures of the scene and I took down some large trees, but in the end, the trees took me down. Tires are always a concern. It was a cool beautiful day about 55 degrees. Tires are seldom an issue at 55 degrees. Road was smooth, and traffic was light. Did I just blow a tire, or did I hit something or did I pick up a nail or something and then low tire pressure and then blow, only my Guardian Angel can say. They had 40K miles on them since new, and at my last fuel/food stop some 120 miles back in Tallahassee I checked all tires (truck and trailer), hitch, chains, as I planned on getting into Louisiana from there. This vehicle has never slept outside except for at the races and was as near new as any 13 model could have been. I have seen rigs at the races, and I would not run the tires I saw on some. But I'm the one who thought he was Daniel Boone and made a trail. I think a person should make reasonable decisions on his or her equipment. We all know the weak spots and the troublesome items on a particular rig. My 2 cents which always runs 50 cents.

jims5600 · 03-27-2016, 01:52 PM

Regardless of the cause,the main thing is your healthy.

BOB KIRKBRIDE · 03-28-2016, 10:25 AM

After seeing the pictures of the motor home, I think it's a miracle that Jeff came out of that with as few injuries as he had. Those motor homes don't do well in crashes. What damages did the race cars sustain? I didn't see any pictures of the trailer or the cars. I blew a front right tire on my Ford F-350 crew cab at 75 mph towing my race car in the trailer on my way to the track a few years ago. I managed to keep it straight and off to the side, no damage. I changed tires about every three years here in Las Vegas. The dry climate takes its toll on them,

Dick Butler · 03-28-2016, 06:35 PM

I was reminded today that the tires on the big motorhomes are originally designed to run 1000's of miles on a semi in a year. None of us uses them that much in the time they can dry rot so they may look fine on the tread and be overlooked. On inspection today found my right front dry rot showing up around the lettering by the rim. For safety I will replace it tomorrow. Plan on getting TYRON installed next month.

Darrel Goheen · 03-30-2016, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JWhalen58

Rig has nothing to do with it. Tire failure is going to happen, just a question of when. We run a TPMS system on our motor home tires and our trailer tires. It constantly monitors air pressure and temperature. If one of the two varies a little bit an alarm will sound and gives me time to slow down to minimize the problem or more likely to get tires aired up so the heat won't build up and cause tire failure. Only cost about $350 and gives us peace of mind. As my son told me the best money I have spent.

Every tow rig should have a Tire Pressure Monitor System. We sell an easy to use and install system. If interested send me an email at haysappliance@yahoo.com or text/phone 785-623-7021

Dick Butler · 03-30-2016, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darrel Goheen

Every tow rig should have a Tire Pressure Monitor System. We sell an easy to use and install system. If interested send me an email at haysappliance@yahoo.com or text/phone 785-623-7021

If you have a leak, I understand the system advantage. What does it tell about impending Blow Out?

03-27-2016, 07:38 AM	#1
craiger Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 28 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	motor home safety In regard to Mr. Teuton's recent accident I believe we need to look very hard at the structural integrity of the toters and rv everyone is using. This accident is a warning to us all. These vehicles have no structure to withstand impact at all, save for fibreglass sheets that blow apart rather easily. My class C mh has three 2" chrome moly roll bars built in but it's the only brand I know of that has this feature and it was double the money of all the other brands. (only bought it because late wife insisted, due to grandkids traveling with us) It is time that we insist on more safety features before any more accidents occur.

03-27-2016, 09:22 AM	#2
mykids Junior Member Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 82 Likes: 0 Liked 2 Times in 1 Post	Re: motor home safety Craiger: I hope if you are a racer you only tow an open all aluminum trailer behind you with a class C as the E-450 Chassis is GVWR at 14,500 lbs as I recall. I think the C's are limited to about 4000-5000 lbs pay load. That is why a majority of the people tow with a Diesel pusher or a Toter. Even the Class A Gas Coaches are over the GCVW if towing an enclosed trailer with a door car not to mention a golf cart or other type of pit transportation other than a scooter etc. We have serious choices to make when deciding on the rig we use. Just so glad Mr. Jeff is getting better - Bob

03-27-2016, 10:12 AM	#3
JWhalen58 Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 110 Likes: 7 Liked 117 Times in 21 Posts	Re: motor home safety Rig has nothing to do with it. Tire failure is going to happen, just a question of when. We run a TPMS system on our motor home tires and our trailer tires. It constantly monitors air pressure and temperature. If one of the two varies a little bit an alarm will sound and gives me time to slow down to minimize the problem or more likely to get tires aired up so the heat won't build up and cause tire failure. Only cost about $350 and gives us peace of mind. As my son told me the best money I have spent.

03-27-2016, 10:53 AM	#4
mykids Junior Member Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 82 Likes: 0 Liked 2 Times in 1 Post	Re: motor home safety I think the rig does have something to do with it not in Mr.Jeff's case as he probably had 22.5 rubber - however some of the smaller RV's start with 19.5 rubber - I do agree three is alway's a certain amount of tire failure that happens - Hope everyone has a Great Easter

03-27-2016, 12:51 PM	#5
Jeff Teuton VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houma, LA Posts: 2,717 Likes: 2 Liked 325 Times in 50 Posts	Re: motor home safety Don't everyone get all concerned. You have to remember what you have seen on my rig was after one hour of fireman cutting me out which I think they came in from both sides, and then some 8 hours of big wreckers pulling, dragging, and otherwise finishing it off. It was a total anyway as is the trailer. What I had was a Class 8 truck built in a Day Cab configuration. It had a 16K front axle and 40K rear axle capacity which means a 56,000 Lb GVW. Double frame (C channel inside another C channel) and a big bore motor which means it had hd crossmembers and the motor itself becoming strongest. The front was fiberglass and the cab was aluminum. All NRC conversions are steel frame built on the chassis and reinforced in critical places such as slide outs, windows, etc. The front axle is what the industry calls a Set Forward Axle which is what all big trucks used to be, but turning considerations, axle placement etc have evolved into most trucks are now Set Back Axle. The Columbia Freightliner is a SBA, while the Coronado is a SFA. It is very hard to run in the woods at 70 MPH and not expect this. I now have pictures of the scene and I took down some large trees, but in the end, the trees took me down. Tires are always a concern. It was a cool beautiful day about 55 degrees. Tires are seldom an issue at 55 degrees. Road was smooth, and traffic was light. Did I just blow a tire, or did I hit something or did I pick up a nail or something and then low tire pressure and then blow, only my Guardian Angel can say. They had 40K miles on them since new, and at my last fuel/food stop some 120 miles back in Tallahassee I checked all tires (truck and trailer), hitch, chains, as I planned on getting into Louisiana from there. This vehicle has never slept outside except for at the races and was as near new as any 13 model could have been. I have seen rigs at the races, and I would not run the tires I saw on some. But I'm the one who thought he was Daniel Boone and made a trail. I think a person should make reasonable decisions on his or her equipment. We all know the weak spots and the troublesome items on a particular rig. My 2 cents which always runs 50 cents. __________________ Jeff Teuton 4022 STK

03-27-2016, 01:52 PM	#6
jims5600 Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 125 Likes: 47 Liked 21 Times in 9 Posts	Re: motor home safety Regardless of the cause,the main thing is your healthy.

03-28-2016, 10:25 AM	#7
BOB KIRKBRIDE Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 62 Likes: 4 Liked 15 Times in 2 Posts	Re: motor home safety After seeing the pictures of the motor home, I think it's a miracle that Jeff came out of that with as few injuries as he had. Those motor homes don't do well in crashes. What damages did the race cars sustain? I didn't see any pictures of the trailer or the cars. I blew a front right tire on my Ford F-350 crew cab at 75 mph towing my race car in the trailer on my way to the track a few years ago. I managed to keep it straight and off to the side, no damage. I changed tires about every three years here in Las Vegas. The dry climate takes its toll on them,

03-28-2016, 06:35 PM	#8
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: motor home safety I was reminded today that the tires on the big motorhomes are originally designed to run 1000's of miles on a semi in a year. None of us uses them that much in the time they can dry rot so they may look fine on the tread and be overlooked. On inspection today found my right front dry rot showing up around the lettering by the rim. For safety I will replace it tomorrow. Plan on getting TYRON installed next month.