Windage tray

Ron Gusack · 03-07-2016, 07:50 PM

Is the Milodon Diamond Stripper a good choice for a BBC windage tray?
Should it be mounted close, like 1/4", to the crank?

I run a 7 quart pan with 6 quarts in it but haven't used a tray since 2009. I also use a scraper even though I've been told they are a waste of time. I had already made it so it became one of those "It can't hurt" items.

Mike Taylor 3601 · 03-09-2016, 10:28 AM

I didn't have good results when i tried diamond stripper tray in SBC
Mike Taylor 3601

Ron Gusack · 03-09-2016, 01:00 PM

Thanks Mike. I've read some positive things about the louvered trays. I went from a screen tray to no tray and didn't notice any difference at all.

joespanova · 03-11-2016, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Taylor 3601

I didn't have good results when i tried diamond stripper tray in SBC
Mike Taylor 3601

Whaddya mean , you "didn't have good results".
Did you dyno back to back between a tray and diamond stripper.........or make track runs and determine any variation in performance was solely due to a different tray / screen?

Ed Wright · 03-11-2016, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by joespanova

Whaddya mean , you "didn't have good results".
Did you dyno back to back between a tray and diamond stripper.........or make track runs and determine any variation in performance was solely due to a different tray / screen?

I have been told by two very sharp, well known, engine builders to not use a tray. "Leave it out" they said, and that they always just pitch them. That getting the oil back in the pan faster is more important. I pulled the tray, did not slow down one bit. I have not used one since. That was in 2010. I think maybe you are looking in the wrong place for hp. jmho

Signman · 03-11-2016, 05:19 PM

What are you doing to keep oil from getting sucked up out of the sump?
Are you using a kickout pan?

Ed Wright · 03-11-2016, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Signman

What are you doing to keep oil from getting sucked up out of the sump?
Are you using a kickout pan?

One man that told me that has tested big blocks on his dyno with a clear plastic pan they built, so they could actually see what was going on in there. He said it was hard to see, lots in the air. They do not use kick outs. Most SS cars seem to use full length sumps. I just have a Moroso with kick outs, but I'm cheap.
He said about nothing sucking oil up out of the pan. This is the first I time I've heard that one.

V M Kauffman · 03-11-2016, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron Gusack

Is the Milodon Diamond Stripper a good choice for a BBC windage tray?
Should it be mounted close, like 1/4", to the crank?

I run a 7 quart pan with 6 quarts in it but haven't used a tray since 2009. I also use a scraper even though I've been told they are a waste of time. I had already made it so it became one of those "It can't hurt" items.

You did the right thing with the scraper, it take time to fab a good one. There is a company in Fla that makes very good ones. As far as kick outs they help on passenger side. Depth put the deepest biggest box you can. Often over look is the shape of the pick ups. Moroso has a small box style pick up that is very good, biggest thing about your pick up is to make sure it is not just sucking a hole in the pump and oil is not getting into pump.

Lee Valentine · 03-11-2016, 07:22 PM

What Ed said, haven't used a windage tray in years. Was told by some very good engine builder's oil bounces off them right back to the crank.

PETE PEERY · 03-11-2016, 07:29 PM

The rear cylinders move a lot of air on their way down so i think it is very important to have some type of baffle obstructing this. You can weld it to pickup tube or attach to pan but just do not want the air blast to have direct path to pickup area. just my opinion.

03-07-2016, 07:50 PM	#1
Ron Gusack Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 244 Likes: 1 Liked 7 Times in 6 Posts	Windage tray Is the Milodon Diamond Stripper a good choice for a BBC windage tray? Should it be mounted close, like 1/4", to the crank? I run a 7 quart pan with 6 quarts in it but haven't used a tray since 2009. I also use a scraper even though I've been told they are a waste of time. I had already made it so it became one of those "It can't hurt" items. Last edited by Ron Gusack; 03-07-2016 at 08:04 PM. Reason: spelling

03-09-2016, 10:28 AM	#2
Mike Taylor 3601 VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Somerset,Ky Posts: 1,371 Likes: 352 Liked 304 Times in 102 Posts	Re: Windage tray I didn't have good results when i tried diamond stripper tray in SBC Mike Taylor 3601

03-09-2016, 01:00 PM	#3
Ron Gusack Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 244 Likes: 1 Liked 7 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Windage tray Thanks Mike. I've read some positive things about the louvered trays. I went from a screen tray to no tray and didn't notice any difference at all.

03-11-2016, 05:19 PM	#6
Signman Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lower Slower Delaware Posts: 535 Likes: 22 Liked 269 Times in 99 Posts	Re: Windage tray What are you doing to keep oil from getting sucked up out of the sump? Are you using a kickout pan? __________________ Frank Ferrucci I/SA 1271 "Be Thankful for the Gifts You are Given"

03-11-2016, 07:22 PM	#9
Lee Valentine Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Brookfield, CT Posts: 708 Likes: 13 Liked 319 Times in 68 Posts	Re: Windage tray What Ed said, haven't used a windage tray in years. Was told by some very good engine builder's oil bounces off them right back to the crank. __________________ Lee Valentine 1661 STK

03-11-2016, 07:29 PM	#10
PETE PEERY Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 61 Likes: 6 Liked 33 Times in 11 Posts	Re: Windage tray The rear cylinders move a lot of air on their way down so i think it is very important to have some type of baffle obstructing this. You can weld it to pickup tube or attach to pan but just do not want the air blast to have direct path to pickup area. just my opinion.