Oil Filters?

art leong · 04-21-2013, 09:44 PM

Can different oil filters change oil pressure? I've been using Mobil One 10 W 30 all along
I've been running regular Neon oil filters (napa gold). Someone gave me a case of Mopar perfomance V 10 Viper oil filters. (Yes they fit fine).
The neon filter is tiny holds less than a pint. The Viper filter is normal car sized.
I've noticed a drop in oil pressure with the motor hot. Changed oil pumps and rod bearings. Started it up today and it still seems low for the motor temp.
I'm probably going to go out tomorrow and buy a neon filter to see if it makes a difference.
I'm also going to change to Valvoline racing oil 10 w 30 (after I try the little filter)
I'm just wondering if the Viper filter is filtering the oil better. Thus lowering the pressure at an idle. I still have plenty, but I just don't like the drop without knowing why it dropped.
I know that some of the filters come with paper elements. But I doubt Mopar Performance would be using them.

kansas stocker · 04-21-2013, 09:51 PM

Yes.
Pete

steven reynolds · 04-22-2013, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by kansas stocker

Yes.
Pete

Agree completely had a 68 GTX 50 pounds oil pressure wix filter changed oil and filter fram 5 days later 0 oil pressure filter paper in oil pump and passages DO NOT USE FRAM!

Steve

Bob Bender · 04-22-2013, 07:09 AM

Wix Racing filter the BEST !!!

art leong · 04-22-2013, 07:42 AM

My filter is positioned after the pump.

C and W Racing · 04-22-2013, 08:08 AM

Art, yes a filter can affect oil pressure. The differance's in the filtering elements can either cause more or less of a restriction and in turn drop or raise oil pressure. I have seen over 10 psi change from differant filters
Chuck

DonatoEng · 04-22-2013, 11:55 AM

Artie,
The Viper filter is one of the best, has a low restriction element with a high burst canister. It will result in a lower pressure reading at idle but it has a higher flow rate cause at high rpm's.
There are several part numbers available and one of them had some issues, will have to check.

John

FED 387 · 04-22-2013, 01:24 PM

Not positive but I seem to think that the P4529190 filter has a bypass of like 8-10 PSI and a flow rate of 28-30 GPM vs. the "stock type " Neon filter which has a bypass of like 25-30 PSI and a flow rate of only 7-9 GPM--probably why the pressure is coming up so low----less restricton and more oil flowing(volume) ---put a wix 51515R on it and see what happens they are really the way to go---otherwise put a Peterson in line filter on the inner fender but then you hafta run braided line and all----FED387

art leong · 04-23-2013, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonatoEng

Artie,
The Viper filter is one of the best, has a low restriction element with a high burst canister. It will result in a lower pressure reading at idle but it has a higher flow rate cause at high rpm's.
There are several part numbers available and one of them had some issues, will have to check.

John

Hi John the part number is 05281090

art leong · 04-24-2013, 03:50 PM

I just found out what the problem was with my "lower" oil pressure.
I updated the firmware in my ECU yesterday. And wanted to check the functions, datalogging ETC. I dataloged it for about 5 minutes. And when I went over the data I found that my idle was almost 200 rpms lower (850 rpms opposed to 1,050).
This didn't show on the tach. I had worked hard to get the idle smoother over the winter, but the tach didn't show the difference.
When I raise the rpms to 1050 it's the same as last year. The oil filter didn't make a difference (tried a regular filter just to be sure)

04-21-2013, 09:44 PM	#1
art leong VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Richmond Hill, Georgia Posts: 2,003 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Oil Filters? Can different oil filters change oil pressure? I've been using Mobil One 10 W 30 all along I've been running regular Neon oil filters (napa gold). Someone gave me a case of Mopar perfomance V 10 Viper oil filters. (Yes they fit fine). The neon filter is tiny holds less than a pint. The Viper filter is normal car sized. I've noticed a drop in oil pressure with the motor hot. Changed oil pumps and rod bearings. Started it up today and it still seems low for the motor temp. I'm probably going to go out tomorrow and buy a neon filter to see if it makes a difference. I'm also going to change to Valvoline racing oil 10 w 30 (after I try the little filter) I'm just wondering if the Viper filter is filtering the oil better. Thus lowering the pressure at an idle. I still have plenty, but I just don't like the drop without knowing why it dropped. I know that some of the filters come with paper elements. But I doubt Mopar Performance would be using them. __________________ Art Leong 2095 SS

04-21-2013, 09:51 PM	#2
kansas stocker Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: kansas Posts: 235 Likes: 495 Liked 249 Times in 48 Posts	Re: Oil Filters? Yes. Pete

04-22-2013, 07:09 AM	#4
Bob Bender VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,733 Likes: 1,596 Liked 459 Times in 90 Posts	Re: Oil Filters? Wix Racing filter the BEST !!! __________________ Bob Bender 144 O/SA 2010-2012 National Record Holder

04-22-2013, 07:42 AM	#5
art leong VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Richmond Hill, Georgia Posts: 2,003 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Oil Filters? My filter is positioned after the pump. __________________ Art Leong 2095 SS

04-22-2013, 08:08 AM	#6
C and W Racing Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 557 Likes: 6 Liked 13 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Oil Filters? Art, yes a filter can affect oil pressure. The differance's in the filtering elements can either cause more or less of a restriction and in turn drop or raise oil pressure. I have seen over 10 psi change from differant filters Chuck

04-22-2013, 11:55 AM	#7
DonatoEng Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Milford, MI Posts: 147 Likes: 12 Liked 8 Times in 5 Posts	Re: Oil Filters? Artie, The Viper filter is one of the best, has a low restriction element with a high burst canister. It will result in a lower pressure reading at idle but it has a higher flow rate cause at high rpm's. There are several part numbers available and one of them had some issues, will have to check. John __________________ John Donato Stk / SS 3435

04-22-2013, 01:24 PM	#8
FED 387 VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,416 Likes: 522 Liked 330 Times in 178 Posts	Re: Oil Filters? Not positive but I seem to think that the P4529190 filter has a bypass of like 8-10 PSI and a flow rate of 28-30 GPM vs. the "stock type " Neon filter which has a bypass of like 25-30 PSI and a flow rate of only 7-9 GPM--probably why the pressure is coming up so low----less restricton and more oil flowing(volume) ---put a wix 51515R on it and see what happens they are really the way to go---otherwise put a Peterson in line filter on the inner fender but then you hafta run braided line and all----FED387

04-24-2013, 03:50 PM	#10
art leong VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Richmond Hill, Georgia Posts: 2,003 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Oil Filters? I just found out what the problem was with my "lower" oil pressure. I updated the firmware in my ECU yesterday. And wanted to check the functions, datalogging ETC. I dataloged it for about 5 minutes. And when I went over the data I found that my idle was almost 200 rpms lower (850 rpms opposed to 1,050). This didn't show on the tach. I had worked hard to get the idle smoother over the winter, but the tach didn't show the difference. When I raise the rpms to 1050 it's the same as last year. The oil filter didn't make a difference (tried a regular filter just to be sure) __________________ Art Leong 2095 SS