225 stock eliminator help

House of Darts · 09-04-2011, 09:33 PM

Picked up a '63 Dart w/225. I thought that the 273/2 was avaiable for the Dart No such luck.The 225 has under 50K (documented). @ 2606 lbs. and 135HP this puts the Dart @T or U/SA. Is this a low budget racer? Does anyone have any direction , help or parts for this new set up? Thanks

Phillip marvetz · 09-04-2011, 09:45 PM

Not a very good combo for stock, I doubt it would run the index. Sorry.

Dragsinger · 09-05-2011, 02:18 AM

Phillip,

the biggest problem with a low powered combination is running the dial consistently. You have a small carb, small head and the performance will vary greatly with changing conditions. And per the above post, may not even run the index.

Billy Nees · 09-05-2011, 09:24 AM

Well, let's compare it to my 230 Chevy, it's got a bigger cam, better head, better intake, I don't know about the size of the carb but my venturi/ throttle bore are 1.313/1.686. It has a much longer stroke but it's not going to see a lot of RPM anyway, maybe 5500 to 5700 tops. It uses a torqueflite vs. my powerglide ( I had my 'glide so right that I never tried a 200 turbo) and it would weigh 200 lbs less than my Nova at U weight. I've gone 14.0s and teens in U in good air so I think that your Dart could be a bit better than an index runner.
As far as being consistant, little motors need to be paid more attention as to temps, weather and wind than big motored cars but they can work just fine.

Tom Moock · 09-05-2011, 10:24 AM

House of Darts, You mite get a hold of Mike Jeffrey, stock # one qualify at Topeka points meet with his 1980 Dodge Diplomat V/SA slant 6, -.990 under the index. 1980 motor mite be a little different than the 1964 slant 6. Tom

Billy Nees · 09-05-2011, 11:06 AM

80 car has 2bbl carb. Different animal.

Phillip marvetz · 09-05-2011, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom Moock

House of Darts, You mite get a hold of Mike Jeffrey, stock # one qualify at Topeka points meet with his 1980 Dodge Diplomat V/SA slant 6, -.990 under the index. 1980 motor mite be a little different than the 1964 slant 6. Tom

The 1980 is a 2 barrel set up. It will run the index just fine, Mike and I can run 1 second under, Most guy's are 40-50 under without the trick stuff.
The 3 tenths index change killed the 1 barrel combos. I'd have to go look at my old time slips but I think I was only good for about 20-30 under way back when I ran the 1 barrel.
When it's all said and done Marks mustang is the killer in this class and probably will be for a long time.

P.S If anybody want's to run the 2 barrel combo my engine is for sale. The old wagon has a 360 now.

goinbroke2 · 09-05-2011, 03:47 PM

What's in Marks mustang? 2.3L isn't it?
How far under has he run?

Phillip marvetz · 09-05-2011, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by goinbroke2

What's in Marks mustang? 2.3L isn't it?
How far under has he run?

2.3 turbo. He has the record at 1.25 under and I'm sure he'll admit to being able to go a bit better than that, Or maybe not, LOL

David_Ewers · 09-05-2011, 06:31 PM

what years of dodge/plymouth used the 225 2 barrel setup?

09-04-2011, 09:33 PM	#1
House of Darts Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 346 Likes: 19 Liked 20 Times in 15 Posts	225 stock eliminator help Picked up a '63 Dart w/225. I thought that the 273/2 was avaiable for the Dart No such luck.The 225 has under 50K (documented). @ 2606 lbs. and 135HP this puts the Dart @T or U/SA. Is this a low budget racer? Does anyone have any direction , help or parts for this new set up? Thanks

09-04-2011, 09:45 PM	#2
Phillip marvetz Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Lynden ,WA Posts: 820 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: 225 stock eliminator help Not a very good combo for stock, I doubt it would run the index. Sorry. __________________ 2009 V/SA Record Holder

09-05-2011, 02:18 AM	#3
Dragsinger VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Liberty City [East Texas] Posts: 1,760 Likes: 5 Liked 99 Times in 60 Posts	Re: 225 stock eliminator help Phillip, the biggest problem with a low powered combination is running the dial consistently. You have a small carb, small head and the performance will vary greatly with changing conditions. And per the above post, may not even run the index. __________________ Larry Woodfin 471W

09-05-2011, 09:24 AM	#4
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,484 Likes: 3,581 Liked 7,673 Times in 1,729 Posts	Re: 225 stock eliminator help Well, let's compare it to my 230 Chevy, it's got a bigger cam, better head, better intake, I don't know about the size of the carb but my venturi/ throttle bore are 1.313/1.686. It has a much longer stroke but it's not going to see a lot of RPM anyway, maybe 5500 to 5700 tops. It uses a torqueflite vs. my powerglide ( I had my 'glide so right that I never tried a 200 turbo) and it would weigh 200 lbs less than my Nova at U weight. I've gone 14.0s and teens in U in good air so I think that your Dart could be a bit better than an index runner. As far as being consistant, little motors need to be paid more attention as to temps, weather and wind than big motored cars but they can work just fine. __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS I'm not spending 100K to win 2K

09-05-2011, 10:24 AM	#5
Tom Moock Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 801 Likes: 1 Liked 10 Times in 6 Posts	Re: 225 stock eliminator help House of Darts, You mite get a hold of Mike Jeffrey, stock # one qualify at Topeka points meet with his 1980 Dodge Diplomat V/SA slant 6, -.990 under the index. 1980 motor mite be a little different than the 1964 slant 6. Tom __________________ Tom Moock 5704 STK

09-05-2011, 11:06 AM	#6
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,484 Likes: 3,581 Liked 7,673 Times in 1,729 Posts	Re: 225 stock eliminator help 80 car has 2bbl carb. Different animal. __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS I'm not spending 100K to win 2K

09-05-2011, 03:47 PM	#8
goinbroke2 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NS CANADA Posts: 882 Likes: 1,533 Liked 380 Times in 147 Posts	Re: 225 stock eliminator help What's in Marks mustang? 2.3L isn't it? How far under has he run?

09-05-2011, 06:31 PM	#10
David_Ewers Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 6 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 225 stock eliminator help what years of dodge/plymouth used the 225 2 barrel setup?