phoenix crash

larry dowty · 02-25-2010, 09:30 PM

is it true that a super gas car crashed today a phoenix?? in the left lane???

Floyd Staggs · 02-25-2010, 10:06 PM

That's what I heard. I got a call from the track and the guy was on a license pass and went on his lid and then barell rolled. I heard stock could get down the track but not super gas or super comp.

HawkBrosMav · 02-26-2010, 01:01 AM

Alright we all know there are questions about Firebird's track. We know it isn't a perfect surface and I for one would usually be the last one to stand up for this race track in an argument, but I gotta sick my head out here and say everyone is blowing this way out of proportion...

We've had 4 accidents. 2 pro stock car who have little to no downforce at high speeds toward the end of the track. 1 was a super gas car running super street with a driver that was 18 and had only been in a big car for 2 weekends. Everyone that watched that particular car the entire weekend said he never went straight and drove the car way to far, he had plenty of time to lift and never would have put it in the wall if he would have just lifted. The last one was a car at least capable of running super comp (AT LEAST) It was the first pass on the car and the guy driving was trying to license in a short wheelbase car. So not only was it his first pass in something that short that was that fast but it was the first pass on the car..any chance the suspension wasn't set right??? again on this pass it was a said he got out of shape and stayed in it way too long before putting it on the lid... How many cars were lost at Pomona and Bradenton?

I am in no way saying that this is the safest track in the country. I have complained about Firebird for the past 3 years and nothing has been done. I'm not glad 4 people had to lose their car for the problem to become significant enough to do something about, BUT I think the track is safe enough to run a race on and I believe with the weather that we had to contend with last weekend there isn't but a handful of tracks that could have had a moderately successful event. Here's to having a safe race this weekend and hoping that Mike Rice makes a smart decision if in fact the track just doesn't react properly to the cars tomorrow morning!

BH

frank v · 02-26-2010, 10:04 AM

damn im jealous, you guys are racing and i'll be shoveling snow till april .

BKSG1198 · 02-26-2010, 10:06 AM

more snow next wednesday frank!!! snowmobiles don't sound so bad at Atco in April now....they maybe the only thing getting down the track

cad · 02-26-2010, 10:43 AM

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frank v · 02-26-2010, 11:58 AM

thats the right idea!!!

voltdr · 02-26-2010, 05:19 PM

BH, Do you see what is going on with Firebird today?
From Drag Race Central.

CHANDLER, Ariz. - NHRA Full Throttle Drag Racing Series, 26th annual NHRA Arizona Nationals - 12:15p.m. update:

After several days of delays for rain and track incidents last weekend, we are once again in an
extended delay for track conditions.

The NHRA track crew has been working on the track since about 11:00am this morning to remedy
mid-track to finish line issues. The planned Stock; Super Street; and Super Stock qualifying and
time trials were already completed and several Super Comp pairs had completed their runs before the
dragging and spraying began.

The current plan is to do a full track wash, then a regular pre-race track preparation. Once
completed, round one of Stock Eliminator will be attempted. The balance of today's schedule will be
adjusted once the racing begins. The current estimates for the delay is about two hours, plus or
minus.

The balance of Super Comp racers, who were patiently waiting to get their Time Trial, have been
sent back to the pits. In addition, the planned Super Gas and Top Dragster time trial/qualifying
for this weekends LODRS Division Seven opener will be rescheduled to later today or after the
completion of the National Event eliminations.

With weather predictions for a wet Sunday, this has the makings of a long weekend!

Why does it take a week to nothing and then finally decide to work on the racing surface. Maybe a backhoe would be better.
Dan

Mike Brogniez · 02-26-2010, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HawkBrosMav

Alright we all know there are questions about Firebird's track. We know it isn't a perfect surface and I for one would usually be the last one to stand up for this race track in an argument, but I gotta sick my head out here and say everyone is blowing this way out of proportion...

We've had 4 accidents. 2 pro stock car who have little to no downforce at high speeds toward the end of the track. 1 was a super gas car running super street with a driver that was 18 and had only been in a big car for 2 weekends. Everyone that watched that particular car the entire weekend said he never went straight and drove the car way to far, he had plenty of time to lift and never would have put it in the wall if he would have just lifted. The last one was a car at least capable of running super comp (AT LEAST) It was the first pass on the car and the guy driving was trying to license in a short wheelbase car. So not only was it his first pass in something that short that was that fast but it was the first pass on the car..any chance the suspension wasn't set right??? again on this pass it was a said he got out of shape and stayed in it way too long before putting it on the lid... How many cars were lost at Pomona and Bradenton?

I am in no way saying that this is the safest track in the country. I have complained about Firebird for the past 3 years and nothing has been done. I'm not glad 4 people had to lose their car for the problem to become significant enough to do something about, BUT I think the track is safe enough to run a race on and I believe with the weather that we had to contend with last weekend there isn't but a handful of tracks that could have had a moderately successful event. Here's to having a safe race this weekend and hoping that Mike Rice makes a smart decision if in fact the track just doesn't react properly to the cars tomorrow morning!

BH

Downforce not likely the problem .....and a less experienced driver having repeated problems would further indicate SERIOUS track issues.
Hope it gets fixed permanently before more people damage their rides, get seriously hurt or die.

herbjr · 02-26-2010, 06:27 PM

I said it last week Ill say it again, if ANYONE CRASHES AT PHEONIX THIS WEEKEND ITS NOT THE TRACKS FAULT.....it's you fault for being there knowing what you were racing on.

02-25-2010, 09:30 PM	#1
larry dowty Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: chewelah wa Posts: 283 Likes: 0 Liked 11 Times in 4 Posts	phoenix crash is it true that a super gas car crashed today a phoenix?? in the left lane??? __________________ larry dowty 6388 SS

02-25-2010, 10:06 PM	#2
Floyd Staggs VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Cucamonga, CA Posts: 1,522 Likes: 152 Liked 229 Times in 99 Posts	Re: phoenix crash That's what I heard. I got a call from the track and the guy was on a license pass and went on his lid and then barell rolled. I heard stock could get down the track but not super gas or super comp. __________________ Floyd Staggs 787 SST

02-26-2010, 01:01 AM	#3
HawkBrosMav Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 362 Likes: 6 Liked 302 Times in 73 Posts	Re: phoenix crash Alright we all know there are questions about Firebird's track. We know it isn't a perfect surface and I for one would usually be the last one to stand up for this race track in an argument, but I gotta sick my head out here and say everyone is blowing this way out of proportion... We've had 4 accidents. 2 pro stock car who have little to no downforce at high speeds toward the end of the track. 1 was a super gas car running super street with a driver that was 18 and had only been in a big car for 2 weekends. Everyone that watched that particular car the entire weekend said he never went straight and drove the car way to far, he had plenty of time to lift and never would have put it in the wall if he would have just lifted. The last one was a car at least capable of running super comp (AT LEAST) It was the first pass on the car and the guy driving was trying to license in a short wheelbase car. So not only was it his first pass in something that short that was that fast but it was the first pass on the car..any chance the suspension wasn't set right??? again on this pass it was a said he got out of shape and stayed in it way too long before putting it on the lid... How many cars were lost at Pomona and Bradenton? I am in no way saying that this is the safest track in the country. I have complained about Firebird for the past 3 years and nothing has been done. I'm not glad 4 people had to lose their car for the problem to become significant enough to do something about, BUT I think the track is safe enough to run a race on and I believe with the weather that we had to contend with last weekend there isn't but a handful of tracks that could have had a moderately successful event. Here's to having a safe race this weekend and hoping that Mike Rice makes a smart decision if in fact the track just doesn't react properly to the cars tomorrow morning! BH

02-26-2010, 10:04 AM	#4
frank v Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: ny Posts: 286 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: phoenix crash damn im jealous, you guys are racing and i'll be shoveling snow till april . __________________ s/g 1620

02-26-2010, 10:06 AM	#5
BKSG1198 VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Vineland, NJ Posts: 2,626 Likes: 96 Liked 1,283 Times in 392 Posts	Re: phoenix crash more snow next wednesday frank!!! snowmobiles don't sound so bad at Atco in April now....they maybe the only thing getting down the track

02-26-2010, 10:43 AM	#6
cad Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 702 Likes: 202 Liked 91 Times in 51 Posts	Re: phoenix crash .... Last edited by cad; 02-27-2010 at 10:19 AM. Reason: wrong thread...

02-26-2010, 11:58 AM	#7
frank v Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: ny Posts: 286 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: phoenix crash thats the right idea!!! __________________ s/g 1620

02-26-2010, 05:19 PM	#8
voltdr Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 706 Likes: 77 Liked 100 Times in 51 Posts	Re: phoenix crash BH, Do you see what is going on with Firebird today? From Drag Race Central. CHANDLER, Ariz. - NHRA Full Throttle Drag Racing Series, 26th annual NHRA Arizona Nationals - 12:15p.m. update: After several days of delays for rain and track incidents last weekend, we are once again in an extended delay for track conditions. The NHRA track crew has been working on the track since about 11:00am this morning to remedy mid-track to finish line issues. The planned Stock; Super Street; and Super Stock qualifying and time trials were already completed and several Super Comp pairs had completed their runs before the dragging and spraying began. The current plan is to do a full track wash, then a regular pre-race track preparation. Once completed, round one of Stock Eliminator will be attempted. The balance of today's schedule will be adjusted once the racing begins. The current estimates for the delay is about two hours, plus or minus. The balance of Super Comp racers, who were patiently waiting to get their Time Trial, have been sent back to the pits. In addition, the planned Super Gas and Top Dragster time trial/qualifying for this weekends LODRS Division Seven opener will be rescheduled to later today or after the completion of the National Event eliminations. With weather predictions for a wet Sunday, this has the makings of a long weekend! Why does it take a week to nothing and then finally decide to work on the racing surface. Maybe a backhoe would be better. Dan

02-26-2010, 06:27 PM	#10
herbjr VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Greensboro NC Posts: 1,027 Likes: 1 Liked 83 Times in 32 Posts	Re: phoenix crash I said it last week Ill say it again, if ANYONE CRASHES AT PHEONIX THIS WEEKEND ITS NOT THE TRACKS FAULT.....it's you fault for being there knowing what you were racing on.