HOME FORUM RULES CONTACT
     
   
   

Go Back   CLASS RACER FORUM > Class Racer Forums > Stock and Super Stock Tech

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-11-2008, 09:03 AM   #1
Dragsinger
VIP Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Liberty City [East Texas]
Posts: 1,760
Likes: 5
Liked 99 Times in 60 Posts
Default underhood working on the 93 up Camaro/Firebird

Since I am beginning with a clean paper, just how tough is the 93 up F body for under hood work? I am building an IHRA Crate Motor combo, small block with carb. Let me hear from racers who are doing under hood work on these cars.
Thanks
__________________
Larry Woodfin 471W
Dragsinger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2008, 09:35 AM   #2
Jack Matyas
Live Reporter
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Bethlehem , PA -Christmas City , USA
Posts: 4,930
Likes: 406
Liked 2,051 Times in 399 Posts
Send a message via AIM to Jack Matyas
Talking Re: underhood working on the 93 up Camaro/Firebird

Seems I've had a few of these..........not too bad to work on but forget about taking the pan off easily.
__________________
Jack Matyas 1547 FS/C 2015 Camaro COPO # 62- 2012 Camaro Convertible COPO
Jack Matyas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2008, 09:42 AM   #3
Dragsinger
VIP Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Liberty City [East Texas]
Posts: 1,760
Likes: 5
Liked 99 Times in 60 Posts
Default Re: underhood working on the 93 up Camaro/Firebird

Jack,

What about engine R & R? What about valve spring changing? What about header & spark plug access?
__________________
Larry Woodfin 471W
Dragsinger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2008, 09:51 AM   #4
Rob Petrie E395
VIP Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Woodlawn IL
Posts: 1,092
Likes: 162
Liked 216 Times in 77 Posts
Default Re: underhood working on the 93 up Camaro/Firebird

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragsinger View Post
Jack,

What about engine R & R? What about valve spring changing? What about header & spark plug access?
engine r&r is alot easier once all the junk is gone, I can change mine in a couple of hours. For valve spring changes buy the tool from comp cams. It slides down over the rocker studs then you tighten a bolt and it pushes down on both retainers at the same time. Take the keepers out and change both springs at the same time, you will understand better when you see the tool. I have not yet found a good tool for checking valve spring pressure while in the car to to the long cowl overhang. as far as spark plug access its a breeze with headers just get one of the shorty sockets I like the one snap on sells best.
Rob Petrie E395 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2008, 10:32 AM   #5
Michigan Skip
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Three Oaks MI
Posts: 58
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: underhood working on the 93 up Camaro/Firebird

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragsinger View Post
Jack,

What about engine R & R? What about valve spring changing? What about header & spark plug access?
Camaro sites will show threads about a "Happy Hooker" that allows you to pull the engine out the top. As far as spark plug removal, if you have access to a lathe, you can just buy a 5/8 plug socket, cut down about half of the socket, and bore the square drive out so the plug runs thru it. then use a 3/4 wrench,socket to remove the plug. With headers it's not real bad at all. Passenger side is the tightest as far as spark plug and header R&R. Like was mentioned, remove the heater stuff and you'll free up a lot of room on the passenger side. BTW, running a carb, usually people knotch the cowl overhang enough to access a distributor and the carb. You'll find pics of all that stuff over on cz28.com if you search the LT1 section.
Have fun
__________________
Skip Willis
95 Z28
IHRA ST/666
Michigan Skip is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2008, 02:26 PM   #6
mtkawboy
Member
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Billings Mt
Posts: 282
Likes: 186
Liked 54 Times in 18 Posts
Default Re: underhood working on the 93 up Camaro/Firebird

No cz28.com, found a z28.com , is that it ?
mtkawboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2008, 05:50 PM   #7
Michigan Skip
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Three Oaks MI
Posts: 58
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: underhood working on the 93 up Camaro/Firebird

Quote:
Originally Posted by mtkawboy View Post
No cz28.com, found a z28.com , is that it ?

http://www.camaroz28.com/forums/

try this one. Sorry!
__________________
Skip Willis
95 Z28
IHRA ST/666
Michigan Skip is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2008, 09:41 AM   #8
Rob Petrie E395
VIP Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Woodlawn IL
Posts: 1,092
Likes: 162
Liked 216 Times in 77 Posts
Default Re: underhood working on the 93 up Camaro/Firebird

Bone stock they can be a absolute nightmare for some jobs I think book time is close to 3 hours for plugs and wires. But after you get all the junk out that you take out of a racecar they are pretty easy to work on. I know the factory service manual reads that you have to drop the k-member and take the engine out the bottom, But I have changed many of these engines in both factory street cars and in my racecars with aftermarket k members and I have yet to remove the K member to do so. Like I said before once you get all the junk out they are easy to work on start by taking the heater assembly out it frees up a ton of room to work on the passengers side.

For oil pan removal I use a tool that is designed for working on front wheel drives. It lays across both stut towers and then you hook a chain from it down to a header bolt on each side. After that just remove the engine mount bolts and the bolts holding the K member and pry it down to get enoughf room to slip the pan out. Its a little tight but a whole lot faster than pulling the engine

Last edited by Rob Petrie E395; 10-11-2008 at 09:46 AM. Reason: added for oil pan removal
Rob Petrie E395 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:33 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright Class Racer.com. All Rights Reserved. Designated trademarks and brands are the property of their respective owners.