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Old 11-14-2023, 11:17 AM   #1
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Default « WAGON OF STEEL » 1000 feet nose diving technic.

From the Nevada National and including the In-N-Out burger National, It was very interesting to follow the SS/OA Wagon of Steel. Always fast in the first part of his runs (qualifying and elimination) until the "nose diving technic" around the 1000 feet mark.
All of the 660 feet speed was better than the quarter mile terminal speed.

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Old 11-14-2023, 12:02 PM   #2
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Yeah ya know, in a day-and-age when we have mechanical critters scrambling around Mars and the Moon and other places, why do racers AND NHRA still deny that a car with a digital ignition box hooked to a grid hooked to a data logger can go a quarter mile in a pre-prescribed E.T.?
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Old 11-14-2023, 12:24 PM   #3
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Billy not saying that you couldn't do it but I don't see how without including other electronic devices. But if you or anyone else knows how please forward me that info. Or take Lukes classes and see how the good bracket racers do it. BP
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Old 11-14-2023, 12:41 PM   #4
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Default Re: « WAGON OF STEEL » 1000 feet nose diving technic.

Both were holding. One more than the other. One was scrubbing e.t. better than the other. The wagon was just giving Cotton a different look than he was expecting.
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Default Re: « WAGON OF STEEL » 1000 feet nose diving technic.

I'm going to assume , after Troy's Jegs win, NHRA might have asked him how he was doing what he was doing. Could be as simple as watching the tach or shift light and lifting all the way off the gas.
Would a slower car be more consistent without powering it all the way to the 1320? Maybe so.
Anyway, as of now, I' d worry more about the factory cars running dead on @ 140 mph.
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Old 11-14-2023, 01:56 PM   #6
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With all the technology today. Heaven forbid if you have any skills. Many years ago I watch Randy Goff, a comp racer here in division 7. He won the division 7 points championship spot racing (not one electronic near the car) in Super Comp with his 67 Nova.

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Old 11-14-2023, 02:23 PM   #7
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Yeah ya know, in a day-and-age when we have mechanical critters scrambling around Mars and the Moon and other places, why do racers AND NHRA still deny that a car with a digital ignition box hooked to a grid hooked to a data logger can go a quarter mile in a pre-prescribed E.T.?
The only issue with that, is the "ARC Module" that would make this technically possible with a grid, is already in the list of unapproved MSD products for NHRA competition. That being said, is it possible for someone to do this with something homemade? Probably. Boy this takes me back, well, not me specifically being that It was about 7 years before I was born, but reminds me of a certain race at Moroso Motorsports Park in 1996 or so.
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Old 11-14-2023, 03:23 PM   #8
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The only issue with that, is the "ARC Module" that would make this technically possible with a grid, is already in the list of unapproved MSD products for NHRA competition. That being said, is it possible for someone to do this with something homemade? Probably. Boy this takes me back, well, not me specifically being that It was about 7 years before I was born, but reminds me of a certain race at Moroso Motorsports Park in 1996 or so.
Ya know, I seem to remember "bonding" with a certain high ranking NHRA employee over reminiscing about being at a Moroso race and an incident occuring involving some kind of a reputed down-track timer. And that was how many years ago? Certainly racers have perfected that technology and learned how to hide it by now! ;-)
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Old 11-14-2023, 04:05 PM   #9
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Default Re: « WAGON OF STEEL » 1000 feet nose diving technic.

I did this back in my bracket racing days with NOS.
Hit it early & put a lot of distance between the cars.
Let that really fast car take the stripe while I was hard on the brakes.
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I can't even imagine the electronic shenanigans involved in some of those big buck bracket races where tech is really loose. At least dumping at the top end is not as visible to the occasional fan as the throttle stop crap that populates the .90 classes. Sorry but they are not entertaining to watch.
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