Is it the economy?

John DiBartolomeo · 07-10-2019, 05:55 AM

"It’s actually pretty invigorating when I see events such as the above-mentioned ones. It’s sort of like when I drive past a house and see kids outside playing. What is wrong with them?"

https://dragracingedge.com/the-blog/is-it-the-economy/

rognelson777 · 07-10-2019, 04:43 PM

Not sure what the entry fees for all of these events are but probably similar to an NHRA National event and pay out pretty much the same as winning a national event haha..also you don't have to get there on Monday or Tuesday to park to race on Friday
And you get more runs and can buy back at most if you so desire.
10 passes at one of those events, nhra national or divisional lose 1st rd and might have been down track twice.

Mark Yacavone · 07-10-2019, 05:10 PM

Johnny DeBart , (Tony Feil lingo)
Of course you realize you're walking the tightrope here...LOL
I would says the present economy has a lot to do with this..
But there's always a few incorrigible and miserable types who can't admit it..purely for political reasons.
In any case , this seems like it might be a two part question..Later for part two.

MikeMoller · 07-10-2019, 07:39 PM

I for one am leaning more and more towards just bracket racing instead of the 'Big Shows'. Can build what u want, make it reliable so less cost and maintenance, no worries about tech, weight, fuel. (although who worries about tech these days!). Like you said, the bracket racers sure seem to have a lot of fun, kinda like the old days when you could run stock/SS at the local tracks every weekend. Stock/SS don't have much choice but to run the big shows.

jimmyparker · 07-10-2019, 07:58 PM

Adam Davis bought my G/SA '68 Camaro at the end of last year, sold the motor and trans, put a bracket motor in it and has won over $20,000 this year. Makes you wonder. I know the most I ever won at one race was $5000, it was a bracket race and I won it in a SS/BA Corvette?

ALMACK · 07-11-2019, 11:09 AM

I can understand the attraction to big bucks bracket races.

I, as well as many others on this forum, enter both types of races.
Class racing and bracket racing.

2 different mind sets.
When I bracket race my Stocker I have curious people asking questions about class racing.
After I tell them about the rules, tech, weight and fuel check procedures we have to go thru, the response most of the time is: "Screw that...sounds like a lot of hassle and expense"

Then, when I tell them what our class racing entry fees are and payout possibilities, plus that there are zero chances to buy back in, they really shake their heads.

....LOL

X-TECH MAN · 07-11-2019, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ALMACK

I can understand the attraction to big bucks bracket races.

I, as well as many others on this forum, enter both types of races.
Class racing and bracket racing.

2 different mind sets.
When I bracket race my Stocker I have curious people asking questions about class racing.
After I tell them about the rules, tech, weight and fuel check procedures we have to go thru, the response most of the time is: "Screw that...sounds like a lot of hassle and expense"

Then, when I tell them what our class racing entry fees are and payout possibilities, plus that there are zero chances to buy back in, they really shake their heads.

....LOL

You hit the nail right on the head !

Carguy49 · 07-12-2019, 11:22 AM

Alan, very well put. The racing that Stock and Super/Stock guys and gals do is not for everyone. It is often not understood, but is a passion for most of the racers.

House of Darts · 07-12-2019, 04:13 PM

Is this am opportunity to host a few index races with the divisionals. Pay the big fee for class racing and add an additional $25.00 and run somewhere within a 10.0/11.50/12,50 index. Should be at least 3 qualifying passes between the classes and an extra bite of the apple.

Ed Fernandez · 07-12-2019, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by House of Darts

Is this am opportunity to host a few index races with the divisionals. Pay the big fee for class racing and add an additional $25.00 and run somewhere within a 10.0/11.50/12,50 index. Should be at least 3 qualifying passes between the classes and an extra bite of the apple.

Bracket racing does not bring in spectators.

07-10-2019, 05:55 AM	#1
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07-10-2019, 04:43 PM	#2
rognelson777 Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 376 Likes: 20 Liked 135 Times in 74 Posts	Re: Is it the economy? Not sure what the entry fees for all of these events are but probably similar to an NHRA National event and pay out pretty much the same as winning a national event haha..also you don't have to get there on Monday or Tuesday to park to race on Friday And you get more runs and can buy back at most if you so desire. 10 passes at one of those events, nhra national or divisional lose 1st rd and might have been down track twice.

07-10-2019, 05:10 PM	#3
Mark Yacavone Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Miles From Nowhere Posts: 7,807 Likes: 2,897 Liked 5,109 Times in 1,947 Posts	Re: Is it the economy? Johnny DeBart , (Tony Feil lingo) Of course you realize you're walking the tightrope here...LOL I would says the present economy has a lot to do with this.. But there's always a few incorrigible and miserable types who can't admit it..purely for political reasons. In any case , this seems like it might be a two part question..Later for part two. __________________ "We are lucky we don't get as much Government as we pay for." Will Rogers

07-10-2019, 07:39 PM	#4
MikeMoller Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Raleigh NC Posts: 637 Likes: 27 Liked 254 Times in 78 Posts	Re: Is it the economy? I for one am leaning more and more towards just bracket racing instead of the 'Big Shows'. Can build what u want, make it reliable so less cost and maintenance, no worries about tech, weight, fuel. (although who worries about tech these days!). Like you said, the bracket racers sure seem to have a lot of fun, kinda like the old days when you could run stock/SS at the local tracks every weekend. Stock/SS don't have much choice but to run the big shows. __________________ Mike Moller NHRA 203 Q-R-T/SA

07-10-2019, 07:58 PM	#5
jimmyparker Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: columbus, georgia Posts: 385 Likes: 65 Liked 309 Times in 88 Posts	Re: Is it the economy? Adam Davis bought my G/SA '68 Camaro at the end of last year, sold the motor and trans, put a bracket motor in it and has won over $20,000 this year. Makes you wonder. I know the most I ever won at one race was $5000, it was a bracket race and I won it in a SS/BA Corvette?

07-11-2019, 11:09 AM	#6
ALMACK VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Bardstown, KY Posts: 1,937 Likes: 131 Liked 369 Times in 127 Posts	Re: Is it the economy? I can understand the attraction to big bucks bracket races. I, as well as many others on this forum, enter both types of races. Class racing and bracket racing. 2 different mind sets. When I bracket race my Stocker I have curious people asking questions about class racing. After I tell them about the rules, tech, weight and fuel check procedures we have to go thru, the response most of the time is: "Screw that...sounds like a lot of hassle and expense" Then, when I tell them what our class racing entry fees are and payout possibilities, plus that there are zero chances to buy back in, they really shake their heads. ....LOL __________________ Alan Mackin Stock 3777/ SS 3377 P/SA & SS/PA Fox Thunderbird I/PS '95 Mustang GT

07-12-2019, 11:22 AM	#8
Carguy49 VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Fife, Washington Posts: 1,970 Likes: 2,444 Liked 2,919 Times in 701 Posts	Re: Is it the economy? Alan, very well put. The racing that Stock and Super/Stock guys and gals do is not for everyone. It is often not understood, but is a passion for most of the racers. __________________ Ron McDowell - Did Race Every day is a Gift - Enjoy with family and friends.

07-12-2019, 04:13 PM	#9
House of Darts Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 346 Likes: 19 Liked 20 Times in 15 Posts	Re: Is it the economy? Is this am opportunity to host a few index races with the divisionals. Pay the big fee for class racing and add an additional $25.00 and run somewhere within a 10.0/11.50/12,50 index. Should be at least 3 qualifying passes between the classes and an extra bite of the apple.