Just a jealous "cheap shot"

Billy Nees · 08-31-2017, 09:12 AM

I love the fact that after Q2, 3 of the top 5 are U/SA cars. Even if they are FFFords.
I wonder where my 307 could have qualified at it's factory rating of 130 HP?

Go B.J.!!!!

Rick Unterseh · 08-31-2017, 10:22 AM

Us slow guys stick together....

Go BJ !!!!!!!

Ron Ortiz · 08-31-2017, 01:03 PM

Two FFFords and A Mercury in the top five. Nice work with the pen NHRA. This is not to take away from BJ, Gary or Brian, just shows how oblivious NHRA's HP Committee is.

Now, lets get back to major problems like intakes, hoods and grills.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA never could have qualified.

Mark Yacavone · 08-31-2017, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

I love the fact that after Q2, 3 of the top 5 are U/SA cars. Even if they are FFFords.
I wonder where my 307 could have qualified at it's factory rating of 130 HP?

Go B.J.!!!!

Sure glad you didn't mention an inline, 1 bbl. 230 six cylinder @ 140 hp,
with V8 2 bbls in the 130's .

(not directed at my friends who play the hand they are dealt)

DRAKE VISCOME · 08-31-2017, 05:57 PM

Ron...c'mon now "hoss"...the pen scenario...has been in "place" for years with NHRA...!!!...it just comes & goes with variable combinations...no matter what the nameplate is...imagine that...was a victim years ago...penciled out of Modified Eliminator...when erased...and...just a REMINDER...it's only qualifying/class...@ moment...YOU still have to put a number on the windshield...create a "package" to go with that...to win...for sure not a ez task...no matter how far under one might be...how 'bout we all just acknowledge...some awesome performances...not sorta' put a asterisk...on or near 'em...lol...me...just a rootin'-tootin' cowboy for BJ & Mike...for personal reasons...don't really care...if...they accomplished #1...with a '58 Edsel...posture...the beauty of America 'eh...just my 2 cents...'nuff said !!!

Drake p.s...yup I know...Marty,Brian,Gary,Bill (top5) all just fell into "gifts"...too...had nothing at all do with...EFFORT...

Billy Nees · 08-31-2017, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

(not directed at my friends who play the hand they are dealt)

It wasn't directed at my friends either Mark. It was directed at those making poor decisions in the NHRA Tech Dept.. I'm so happy for BJ and Mike!
Sorry Capt. Jack but how can you root against a lovely young lady who works on her own stuff and has the scars on her hands to prove it! AND in her spare time writes children's books.

Ron Ortiz · 08-31-2017, 10:07 PM

Drake, if you read the previous post I stated."This is not to take away from BJ, Gary or Brian". They all worked hard to get them FFFords to run fast, no doubt about it. But, when you handed a killer combo with the stoke of a pen, it sure makes it easier. Three of the top five were given favorable factors. And you saw how far they can go under.

As you said this has been happening for years, but some of this stuff is just blatantly obvious. Gary & BJ have already been hit more than once with HP since last year, and they still qualify in the top five. BJ has brutalized the HP ratings and still flies. They work hard on their stuff and reaped the benefits. They got a good hand and played it well.

Just seems that U/SA is just a happy pen place, ie. The Banana Olds, McKays Regal, Shaw's Caddy & Capri, C-6 truck, Senia's Cimmaron, and the FFFord/Comet. They all were #1 qualifiers everywhere. Tell me another class where this has happened so frequently. But, hey, that is why I don't go to Indy, I cannot run 1.40 under.

Still, congratulations to BJ and Mike on your class win. Nice try Jack.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA think I'll try something easy like Comp.

The Hawk · 08-31-2017, 10:16 PM

Not so amazing or impressive when a combo gets 21 hp taken away in one big chunk a few years ago. Could be 30 or more. May have it mixed up with another combo that received a big gift from NHRA.

BBF67 · 08-31-2017, 11:00 PM

I believe those 302 2-barrel Fords were rated at 170 just before the NHRA pen struck. Can anyone remember if that's what they were?

rawhide · 08-31-2017, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BBF67

I believe those 302 2-barrel Fords were rated at 170 just before the NHRA pen struck. Can anyone remember if that's what they were?

I was thinking it was 164.

RB

08-31-2017, 10:22 AM	#2
Rick Unterseh Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Phoenix, Arizona Posts: 133 Likes: 3 Liked 31 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Just a jealous "cheap shot" Us slow guys stick together.... Go BJ !!!!!!! __________________ Rick Unterseh O/SA P/SA

08-31-2017, 01:03 PM	#3
Ron Ortiz Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Englewood, Florida Posts: 989 Likes: 35 Liked 317 Times in 103 Posts	Re: Just a jealous "cheap shot" Two FFFords and A Mercury in the top five. Nice work with the pen NHRA. This is not to take away from BJ, Gary or Brian, just shows how oblivious NHRA's HP Committee is. Now, lets get back to major problems like intakes, hoods and grills. Ron Ortiz U/SA never could have qualified. __________________ Ron Ortiz 2102 STK

08-31-2017, 05:57 PM	#5
DRAKE VISCOME Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 277 Likes: 205 Liked 92 Times in 36 Posts	Re: Just a jealous "cheap shot" Ron...c'mon now "hoss"...the pen scenario...has been in "place" for years with NHRA...!!!...it just comes & goes with variable combinations...no matter what the nameplate is...imagine that...was a victim years ago...penciled out of Modified Eliminator...when erased...and...just a REMINDER...it's only qualifying/class...@ moment...YOU still have to put a number on the windshield...create a "package" to go with that...to win...for sure not a ez task...no matter how far under one might be...how 'bout we all just acknowledge...some awesome performances...not sorta' put a asterisk...on or near 'em...lol...me...just a rootin'-tootin' cowboy for BJ & Mike...for personal reasons...don't really care...if...they accomplished #1...with a '58 Edsel...posture...the beauty of America 'eh...just my 2 cents...'nuff said !!! Drake p.s...yup I know...Marty,Brian,Gary,Bill (top5) all just fell into "gifts"...too...had nothing at all do with...EFFORT...

08-31-2017, 10:07 PM	#7
Ron Ortiz Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Englewood, Florida Posts: 989 Likes: 35 Liked 317 Times in 103 Posts	Re: Just a jealous "cheap shot" Drake, if you read the previous post I stated."This is not to take away from BJ, Gary or Brian". They all worked hard to get them FFFords to run fast, no doubt about it. But, when you handed a killer combo with the stoke of a pen, it sure makes it easier. Three of the top five were given favorable factors. And you saw how far they can go under. As you said this has been happening for years, but some of this stuff is just blatantly obvious. Gary & BJ have already been hit more than once with HP since last year, and they still qualify in the top five. BJ has brutalized the HP ratings and still flies. They work hard on their stuff and reaped the benefits. They got a good hand and played it well. Just seems that U/SA is just a happy pen place, ie. The Banana Olds, McKays Regal, Shaw's Caddy & Capri, C-6 truck, Senia's Cimmaron, and the FFFord/Comet. They all were #1 qualifiers everywhere. Tell me another class where this has happened so frequently. But, hey, that is why I don't go to Indy, I cannot run 1.40 under. Still, congratulations to BJ and Mike on your class win. Nice try Jack. Ron Ortiz U/SA think I'll try something easy like Comp. __________________ Ron Ortiz 2102 STK

08-31-2017, 10:16 PM	#8
The Hawk VIP Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Littleton,Colorado Posts: 1,194 Likes: 0 Liked 249 Times in 109 Posts	Re: Just a jealous "cheap shot" Not so amazing or impressive when a combo gets 21 hp taken away in one big chunk a few years ago. Could be 30 or more. May have it mixed up with another combo that received a big gift from NHRA. __________________ Lane Weber It`s Not What You Drive That Wins....It`s How You Drive It Last edited by The Hawk; 08-31-2017 at 11:52 PM.

08-31-2017, 09:12 AM	#1
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,491 Likes: 3,594 Liked 7,708 Times in 1,736 Posts	Just a jealous "cheap shot" I love the fact that after Q2, 3 of the top 5 are U/SA cars. Even if they are FFFords. I wonder where my 307 could have qualified at it's factory rating of 130 HP? Go B.J.!!!! __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS I'm not spending 100K to win 2K Last edited by Billy Nees; 08-31-2017 at 09:52 AM.

08-31-2017, 11:00 PM	#9
BBF67 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 89 Likes: 0 Liked 8 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Just a jealous "cheap shot" I believe those 302 2-barrel Fords were rated at 170 just before the NHRA pen struck. Can anyone remember if that's what they were?