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Old 02-20-2017, 11:51 AM   #1
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SBC SS engine, PAC vs Manley Nex-Tek spring? Whats good and whats bad?
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Old 02-20-2017, 12:51 PM   #2
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Both make "good" springs--- too many variables to ask that question--- need info on Cam lift- suggested spring pressures- RPM range engine will be operated in/spring diameter/installed height etc./spring treatments polishing etc. etc.-----might want to look at PSI also compare the 3--- PAC & PSI generally are a step above Manley due to their steel/manufacturing treatments etc. etc. but I'm not saying to use one over the other it all depends on your set up---FED 387
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Old 02-20-2017, 01:29 PM   #3
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I have to say the last set of Manley 448 springs I got were the best ever from Manley.
Over 200 runs with no broken springs and only 10-15# loss of pressure across the board.
And that is on a 8300rpm Big Block with a .900 lift cam .
I've used PAC , PSI and Manley , It seems Manley may have caught up with the reliability. AND they always pay the contingency , had issues with the others.
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Old 02-20-2017, 02:48 PM   #4
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yes time for a new set on my 327ci...same recommendations? matching retainers & locks or r they a different brand...tks.
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Old 03-09-2017, 03:57 AM   #5
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Crane Cam's springs are also good. They have some made by PAC and some not. Their 1.55" and 1.625" is made for them and are excellent (96886 and 99880), and their Posi-Stop or standard retainers fit correctly including ID locators.

I like both Crane and Manley
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Old 03-09-2017, 08:38 AM   #6
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I have been using PAC 1356 springs (1.5" dia) for a few years now. I put new springs on every year, just to be safe. Just an LT1, mine never sees over 8500. Usually 8300 at the stripe. Have never broken one, and have never seen much pressure loss. I have three sets sitting here I would have no problem using again. I can torque the center head bolts with these 1.5" diameter springs installed, and don't have to clearance the rocker arms for them. Best springs I have had.
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Old 03-09-2017, 10:10 AM   #7
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I have used PAC, PSI, and Manley.

PSI never paid me contingency, even after repeated calls and emails so I stopped using their springs.

Manley always had breakage issues. In 2010 I could not make over 5 to 6 passes before changing a broken spring. Manley even admitted they had an issue and wanted to give me more springs free. I declined and changed to PAC. Issue solved.
PAC over the years have been slow to pay contingency, however in 2016 they paid quickly.

PAC is and would be my choice.
I still use them and have not broken one in years and they hold their pressures for a full year.

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Old 03-09-2017, 12:37 PM   #8
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Re-read post #2.

Start with your cam card recommended spring pressure. PAC and Manley make hundreds if not thousands of different pressure, height and configurations from several different spring steel alloys and processes (PAC alloy, "Super Clean" ect.). Find out about those and work from there. Don't forget valves, push rods and rockers. Make sure everything's going to be happy in there.

I spent months on this before deciding on AFR 8001 {PAC 1225) springs for my SBF.
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My experience is that PAC's quality control leaves a lot to be desired. In each set I purchased from them, I had to exchange at least one spring because the rate was way off compared to the others in the set. I just purchased a set of PSI's and they were spot on.
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My experience is that PAC's quality control leaves a lot to be desired. In each set I purchased from them, I had to exchange at least one spring because the rate was way off compared to the others in the set. I just purchased a set of PSI's and they were spot on.
Guess I've been lucky. I'm on my 4th set now, and I check every spring in the box. Have ever seen that.
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