283 stocker timing problems

Terry Waldron · 04-26-2015, 06:57 PM

will not start unless i set timing at 28- 30 degrees, i usually have timing set at 38-40, is my dist. off a little ?

Mike Taylor 3601 · 04-27-2015, 09:33 AM

When you say won't start what do you mean exactly,it hits but won't start like timing is retarded,or just cranks without hitting at all?
Mike Taylor 3601

Terry Waldron · 04-27-2015, 10:19 AM

starts up fine at 28-30 if i set the timing up to 38- 40 where i want it it turns over real hard, wont start at 38.

Mark Yacavone · 04-27-2015, 12:18 PM

It seems to me that if you want to start it with that much fixed timing, you would want crank the motor with a button, then flip the ignition on.
Then again , maybe I'm behind the times and you just need a bigger, more expensive battery.

FED 387 · 04-27-2015, 12:41 PM

First double check the timing then start looking at bigger battery more /powerful starter--- wiring to/from both--- we routinely run 36-38* timing in a comp car with a standard mini starter and a small 12V battery no problems--- turns right over --- ya might try Mark's suggestion crank it over then turn ignition on see if that helps--FED 387

Everett Hill · 04-27-2015, 12:41 PM

what has changed new motor, new cam, removed dist. ,or just checking timing

FED 387 · 04-27-2015, 12:48 PM

how do you set your timing??? @ what rpm??

Wade_Owens · 04-27-2015, 01:19 PM

What tooth flexplate?
Is your starter just a mini starter, or is it a gear reduction?
1 battery or 2?
12v or 16v?

Wade O

rboyle · 04-27-2015, 01:35 PM

Was the motor originally a crank hub and changed to damper? If so make sure you have the right one because there are different marks on the balancer. Had a similar problem on a street motor and used a timing tape to correct the errant marks after figured it out

John Kissel · 04-27-2015, 02:15 PM

Terry, You might could try this device MSD has called a "Starter Saver". It electronically takes out either 10 or 20 crank degrees when cranking depending on if you cut a certain wire or not. It can make an engine spin over like nothin'. Go read about it on their web site, John Kissel

04-26-2015, 06:57 PM	#1
Terry Waldron Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: silvis ill Posts: 40 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	283 stocker timing problems will not start unless i set timing at 28- 30 degrees, i usually have timing set at 38-40, is my dist. off a little ? __________________ Terry Waldron 5619 K/S

04-27-2015, 09:33 AM	#2
Mike Taylor 3601 VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Somerset,Ky Posts: 1,361 Likes: 333 Liked 279 Times in 96 Posts	Re: 283 stocker timing problems When you say won't start what do you mean exactly,it hits but won't start like timing is retarded,or just cranks without hitting at all? Mike Taylor 3601

04-27-2015, 10:19 AM	#3
Terry Waldron Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: silvis ill Posts: 40 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 283 stocker timing problems starts up fine at 28-30 if i set the timing up to 38- 40 where i want it it turns over real hard, wont start at 38. __________________ Terry Waldron 5619 K/S Last edited by Terry Waldron; 04-27-2015 at 10:45 AM.

04-27-2015, 12:18 PM	#4
Mark Yacavone Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Miles From Nowhere Posts: 7,785 Likes: 2,878 Liked 5,075 Times in 1,934 Posts	Re: 283 stocker timing problems It seems to me that if you want to start it with that much fixed timing, you would want crank the motor with a button, then flip the ignition on. Then again , maybe I'm behind the times and you just need a bigger, more expensive battery. __________________ "We are lucky we don't get as much Government as we pay for." Will Rogers

04-27-2015, 12:41 PM	#5
FED 387 VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,409 Likes: 504 Liked 328 Times in 176 Posts	Re: 283 stocker timing problems First double check the timing then start looking at bigger battery more /powerful starter--- wiring to/from both--- we routinely run 36-38* timing in a comp car with a standard mini starter and a small 12V battery no problems--- turns right over --- ya might try Mark's suggestion crank it over then turn ignition on see if that helps--FED 387

04-27-2015, 12:41 PM	#6
Everett Hill Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 49 Likes: 0 Liked 4 Times in 3 Posts	Re: 283 stocker timing problems what has changed new motor, new cam, removed dist. ,or just checking timing __________________ Everett Hill 2134 STK, SS

04-27-2015, 12:48 PM	#7
FED 387 VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,409 Likes: 504 Liked 328 Times in 176 Posts	Re: 283 stocker timing problems how do you set your timing??? @ what rpm??

04-27-2015, 01:19 PM	#8
Wade_Owens Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 578 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 1 Post	Re: 283 stocker timing problems What tooth flexplate? Is your starter just a mini starter, or is it a gear reduction? 1 battery or 2? 12v or 16v? Wade O

04-27-2015, 01:35 PM	#9
rboyle Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 603 Likes: 1,453 Liked 586 Times in 162 Posts	Re: 283 stocker timing problems Was the motor originally a crank hub and changed to damper? If so make sure you have the right one because there are different marks on the balancer. Had a similar problem on a street motor and used a timing tape to correct the errant marks after figured it out

04-27-2015, 02:15 PM	#10
John Kissel Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Colt's Neck, n.j. Posts: 349 Likes: 766 Liked 230 Times in 94 Posts	Re: 283 stocker timing problems Terry, You might could try this device MSD has called a "Starter Saver". It electronically takes out either 10 or 20 crank degrees when cranking depending on if you cut a certain wire or not. It can make an engine spin over like nothin'. Go read about it on their web site, John Kissel