1967 Ford 390

Rich67stang · 04-21-2014, 08:56 PM

I just picked up a 1967 Mustang that I want to build a D/SA. I have a few questions, and appreciate any advise.
1. Must be an Original Block?(Do NHRA/IHRA have approved aftermarket)
2. Must be Original Crank? (Do NHRA/IHRA have approved aftermarket)
3. What intake is allowed?(Do NHRA/IHRA have approved aftermarket)
4. I know NHRA/IHRA approved the Edelbrock heads, Can I use aftermarket rockers with Studs?

I built an IHRA Crate motor car, I was going to build a 1993 Cobra, I decided on a 67 Mustang to match my superstocker...

Thanks

CWhitney · 04-21-2014, 10:13 PM

No you don't have to use the original block or crank. You can use a Aluminum police interceptor Intake. You can also use roller rockers. Look under the NHRA comp.web page. It will give the updated and legal parts.CC's, replacement PARTS.ETC.

69Cobra · 04-21-2014, 10:39 PM

What Chris said and in my opinion do yourself a favor and give Blair Patrick a call 423-837-1514.

FireSale · 04-22-2014, 01:22 AM

Go through this link to see what's already approved for that engine. You can ask to have a crank approved by submitting a form on this page. There are several standard weight forged cranks for the 390. Make sure the rod length is stock.

http://www.nhraracer.com/content/gen...545&zoneid=132

Dale

RJ Sledge · 04-22-2014, 11:14 AM

4 speed was not available in a Factory built car until 1962. You could buy one over the parts counter in 1961 (T10 BW) along with 3 duce set up and it was NHRA Legal.

There are, NO after market cranks readily available for the 390-427 I am aware of at this time. You can modify a 391 crank (expensive $1500) or have a Specialty Crank Company build you one (more expensive $2500 min) All aftermarket cranks are for Stroker combo's and not Legal for 390-427 OEM stroke application for S/SS.

A cast crank is not only lighter, it can handle most any S/SS application. I have been running 390's for over 20 years and have never had a problem with the strength of a cast 390 crank if done correctly.

R J

Larry Hill · 04-22-2014, 08:46 PM

If you need a 427 crank just grove the mains of a 390 crank, and don't forget to grind the pin to 2.200 from the not so popular 2.437 stock size.

69Cobra · 04-22-2014, 10:01 PM

And get used to Larry's underhanded comments about FE's. I think he must be the most butt hurt racer I've seen when it comes to these engines. It's not like the 440 never got any superseded carbs, intakes or heads. Nobody's hands are clean in this deal I don't know why you continue to throw rocks when we all live in glass houses, especially when you were quicker than all the FE's in your natural class of A/SA according to the end of the year Nitro Joe's Stats of '13.

Larry Hill · 04-23-2014, 07:26 AM

Just trying to help. Lance's car is bad fast!

RJ Sledge · 04-23-2014, 10:36 AM

You'll have to forgive Larry, I guess he's still celebrating Kentucky's National Championship over UConn???.........Oh, my bad.....Sorry Larry just trying to help. LOL

RJ

69Cobra · 04-23-2014, 09:23 PM

Hey don't mess with Big Blue Nation! Big Blue will be back again next year don't worry.

04-21-2014, 08:56 PM	#1
Rich67stang Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Jackson, NJ Posts: 312 Likes: 3 Liked 111 Times in 26 Posts	1967 Ford 390 I just picked up a 1967 Mustang that I want to build a D/SA. I have a few questions, and appreciate any advise. 1. Must be an Original Block?(Do NHRA/IHRA have approved aftermarket) 2. Must be Original Crank? (Do NHRA/IHRA have approved aftermarket) 3. What intake is allowed?(Do NHRA/IHRA have approved aftermarket) 4. I know NHRA/IHRA approved the Edelbrock heads, Can I use aftermarket rockers with Studs? I built an IHRA Crate motor car, I was going to build a 1993 Cobra, I decided on a 67 Mustang to match my superstocker... Thanks __________________ Richard Preiser 1613 FGT/I 1510 C/SA 161 F/DA

04-21-2014, 10:13 PM	#2
CWhitney Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Sun Valley,Ca Posts: 86 Likes: 2 Liked 12 Times in 6 Posts	Re: 1967 Ford 390 No you don't have to use the original block or crank. You can use a Aluminum police interceptor Intake. You can also use roller rockers. Look under the NHRA comp.web page. It will give the updated and legal parts.CC's, replacement PARTS.ETC.

04-21-2014, 10:39 PM	#3
69Cobra Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: California, Ky Posts: 669 Likes: 61 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: 1967 Ford 390 What Chris said and in my opinion do yourself a favor and give Blair Patrick a call 423-837-1514. __________________ Kris Rachford 69 Cobra 428CJ 4 Speed C/S 3032

04-22-2014, 01:22 AM	#4
FireSale VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Lakewood Washington Posts: 1,407 Likes: 29 Liked 237 Times in 126 Posts	Re: 1967 Ford 390 Go through this link to see what's already approved for that engine. You can ask to have a crank approved by submitting a form on this page. There are several standard weight forged cranks for the 390. Make sure the rod length is stock. http://www.nhraracer.com/content/gen...545&zoneid=132 Dale __________________ Dale Shearon 68 Mustang 6394

04-22-2014, 11:14 AM	#5
RJ Sledge Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 783 Likes: 497 Liked 288 Times in 90 Posts	Re: 1967 Ford 390 4 speed was not available in a Factory built car until 1962. You could buy one over the parts counter in 1961 (T10 BW) along with 3 duce set up and it was NHRA Legal. There are, NO after market cranks readily available for the 390-427 I am aware of at this time. You can modify a 391 crank (expensive $1500) or have a Specialty Crank Company build you one (more expensive $2500 min) All aftermarket cranks are for Stroker combo's and not Legal for 390-427 OEM stroke application for S/SS. A cast crank is not only lighter, it can handle most any S/SS application. I have been running 390's for over 20 years and have never had a problem with the strength of a cast 390 crank if done correctly. R J

04-22-2014, 08:46 PM	#6
Larry Hill Live Reporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hickory, Ky Posts: 10,624 Likes: 1,914 Liked 10,671 Times in 2,217 Posts	Re: 1967 Ford 390 If you need a 427 crank just grove the mains of a 390 crank, and don't forget to grind the pin to 2.200 from the not so popular 2.437 stock size. __________________ IHM Used Parts https://ihmusedparts.com 888-821-1817

04-22-2014, 10:01 PM	#7
69Cobra Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: California, Ky Posts: 669 Likes: 61 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: 1967 Ford 390 And get used to Larry's underhanded comments about FE's. I think he must be the most butt hurt racer I've seen when it comes to these engines. It's not like the 440 never got any superseded carbs, intakes or heads. Nobody's hands are clean in this deal I don't know why you continue to throw rocks when we all live in glass houses, especially when you were quicker than all the FE's in your natural class of A/SA according to the end of the year Nitro Joe's Stats of '13. __________________ Kris Rachford 69 Cobra 428CJ 4 Speed C/S 3032

04-23-2014, 07:26 AM	#8
Larry Hill Live Reporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hickory, Ky Posts: 10,624 Likes: 1,914 Liked 10,671 Times in 2,217 Posts	Re: 1967 Ford 390 Just trying to help. Lance's car is bad fast! __________________ IHM Used Parts https://ihmusedparts.com 888-821-1817

04-23-2014, 10:36 AM	#9
RJ Sledge Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 783 Likes: 497 Liked 288 Times in 90 Posts	Re: 1967 Ford 390 You'll have to forgive Larry, I guess he's still celebrating Kentucky's National Championship over UConn???.........Oh, my bad.....Sorry Larry just trying to help. LOL RJ

04-23-2014, 09:23 PM	#10
69Cobra Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: California, Ky Posts: 669 Likes: 61 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: 1967 Ford 390 Hey don't mess with Big Blue Nation! Big Blue will be back again next year don't worry. __________________ Kris Rachford 69 Cobra 428CJ 4 Speed C/S 3032 Last edited by 69Cobra; 04-23-2014 at 09:28 PM.