Hagerstown S-S/S Combo or Pro E T ? ? ?

[Jack Matyas]

This years Lee Sherman Memorial event at Hagerstown will feature allowing Nostalgia S/S cars running with the traditional Stock - SuperStock cars .These cars basically have no rules other than stock 'appearing' bodies and engines .

If Mr.Sherman ( or Linda Sherman for that matter ) were still alive I could just hear him - "Are you F'in kidding me ? Those who knew him at this moment could hear his words ......

Stock - SuperStock or Pro ET ..............You decide -have we gone too far ? Then voice your thoughts .

[Mike Carr]

~Nostalgia/SS is part of the Tri-State S/SS Association (the sanctioning group for these races) this year. They have been welcome to race with us all season, though only a minor few have. It would be unfair to tell them they can't run this race.

~Elmer and the track post money intro the race purse to guarantee the $2,000 to win each year (2010-11-12). Because of the lack of support a few of those years, it has cost me and him about $1,600-$1,700. I can't expect us to lose money because others do not come, and this was a way to help add a (very) few cars to the event (more cars = more money to win).

~We have had almost zero participation as it is this year from N/SS. We (Tri-State S/SS) did a double-header weekend at Pittsburgh last month. N/SS had their own, stand-alone class for just them. Because, in their words, "100 bucks is too much to pay to race". At the six races we have had this year, the car counts for N/SS were four, four, one, one, two and zero. So, if you are expecting a dozen or more N/SS cars to be here to run with us, you are sadly mistaken. Personally, if we get more than five, I will be surprised.

~N/SS do have rules, in the various organizations that allow them that we use. Exceptions are, with us, they can dial to the nearest one-hunderedth and change their dial-ins between rounds. Cars must retain stock bodies, engines based on period correct and OEM parts (no Dart/B-1 heads, Merlin blocks, etc). They do not use delay boxes, transbrakes, or air shifters (two-steps allowed). You can use replacement OEM-based parts that are period correct. So, basically, the same rules as modern S/SS racing in 2013, if not stricter.

~The flyer for this race has been up on here since October 4 (twenty-four days ago), and stuff about ALL of our races has been up on this website down below since January. Why someone would choose to complain now, four days before the race is a little peculiar.

~If you had a problem, you could have just called and/or e-mailed me.

~Someone will win $2,000 this coming Sunday.

[Mike Pearson]

The NSS cars run with us at the Southern Stock Super Stock Assn down here in Florida. We typically have 3 or 4 NSS cars that show up for each event. The cars we get are very nice, clean, well prepared cars. They have done well in the eliminations so they are also some good drivers as well. Just another good bunch of guys to race with.

[Jack Matyas]

Originally Posted by Mike Carr

~The flyer for this race has been up on here since October 4 (twenty-four days ago), and stuff about ALL of our races has been up on this website down below since January. Why someone would choose to complain now, four days before the race is a little peculiar.

~If you had a problem, you could have just called and/or e-mailed me.

First thing is why are you so defensive - no one complained or even mentioned you .Second is you chose to change who was allowed to race at this event 24 days before and didn't bother to tell anyone .Yes, its there in your post - but who knew to proof read the first page of your thread that was posted in January and you changed recently.

And lastly do you feel that you might have asked anyone's opinion on how they feel on this matter ? And BTW , if I had e-mailed or called you about how would the racers or members have found out about this change ?

[Mike Carr]

I never changed ANYTHING after the rules for our series were set Which was in January. Let alone did I change anything twenty-four days before H-town about who could race. Nost/SS was allowed since January, for this and ALL races in our series (all eight races).

Yes, I asked MANY racers for their opinions and input regarding our series in the offseason, received many e-mails and phone calls (December and January). I posted in the Tri-State S/SS Association forum MANY times in that time span this past winter, looking for ways to improve car counts and things for 2013. and It was voted 100% in favor of allowing N/SS into our series for 2013. Which includes Hagerstown. If a few people dislike that, there is nothing I can do.

[Rich67stang]

Whaah!...what is the big deal, I plan on attending, so any NSS are welcome to follow me into the lanes to race. There are no NHRA/IHRA points or records, just ST/SS/NSS bracket racing...sounds like fun/good time to me.

Richard
SS/DM 161
I/CM 151

[aross6]

^^^What He Said! I've raced against NSS cars with my Stocker in the Buckeye Stock/SuperStock Series this year, & I don't see any competitive advantage or disadvantage to it. Some very nice NSS cars and very nice NSS drivers. It's just Stock/SuperStock/NostalgiaSuperStock bracket racing... a fun time to be had by all. Keep your head up Mike!!!

[gbur]

must be something about used car sales down

[7423]

Jack,
You really should try a little bracket racing..............You might even learn something.
Take a deep breath and put a dial on the window, sound familiar??
Thumbs up to clubs and associations who support drag racing and put on events. Without them, all we would have is the always changing Torah from Glendora.

[Dave Turner]

I seldom have an opinion that I consider worthy of exposure to debate. On this subject, however, there is an opportunity to lend my support to the guys who may be perceived as detracting from the traditional structure.

In the Can-Am Stock/SuperStock Series, we welcome the participation of our friends from the NSS ranks. There is a veiled distinction between our series guidelines and a sanctioned event. I say that it is hidden from view because the spectators are generally unaware that we race locally in a format that differs significantly from NHRA or IHRA competition. They see a diverse group of vehicles competing in bracket race style with the added entertainment value offered by the wheel standing action. I daresay that there have been few objections to the Nostalgia content - not one of their cars looks out of place.

In the spirit of keeping the emphasis on fun and affordable Sportsman racing, I endorse the more open concept adopted by many of the regional series using a "Combo" framework.