Mopar racers,,, help me settle a bet.

[Geerhead55]

Anyone want to chime in on 440 Dusters and Demons? I've got 3 Mopar buddies that I have breakfast with on Saturdays and they were talking about these cars. Now I'm a Chevy guy and I admit I've been wrong on many things, but when I told them "No such animal from the factory," they looked at me like I was crazy. I told them in over 40 years of following Stock and Superstock, you'd think we'd run across one by now, if they ever existed. Now , I'm just a kid of 59, and these guys are in their 60s, but I don't recall one of these being offered from Mopar.
One of them grabbed his smartphone and showed some pictures of one in Lime Green with the black 440 stripes down the side, and I told him "Its got to be true if its on the internet, right?" So another tells me about the flat black hoods with the 440 printed at an angle,, and I said those were '71 340 cars.
Perhaps Mr. Norm or somebody built these,, but I'm sticking by my claim that Plymouth and Dodge never built this combo,, and I'd buy them breakfast next week if they can provide proof,, not just somebody's picture of a homebuilt, since I've seen plenty of 440 Dusters and Demons at the drags over the years,, but not factory built.
I've got faith in my Classracer.com brothers and sisters,, so help me either put my tail between my legs or stick my chest out.
I brought my copy of Muscle Car Chronicle with me and told them to find one and they couldn't,, so maybe the "authors" missed these. You think?
Sorry for being so long winded,, but thanks for any input.
Danny Durham

[art leong]

I know there are 383 (and 440) Darts and Cudas But I've never heard of a big block Duster or Demon.

[Dion Hildebrandt]

Danny I side with you , the only big block dusters I have ever seen were cobled together. But what do I know, I not over forty and I am a gm guy

[Frank Castros]

Never was there a big block Duster or Demon, only '68-'69 Darts and Barracudas.

[Pentastar340]

Raise your tail Danny, no factory big block Dusters or Demons.

Leonard Johnson 4445 STK

[Hemi Moose]

Danny, it looks like your buddies owe you a breakfast next week, lol...the biggest motor available in a 70-71 Duster or Demon was the 340 engine and a 360 was offered in later models...

[Chris DeGidio]

No factory big block Duster or Demon's were ever built.There was a deal that I think Tom Hoover proposed as a factory race car (like the 68 SS/AA cars) using a big block in a Demon for SS/CA,but it never happened.

[John Dinkel]

No such thing. I used to work at Chrysler Proving Grounds in those days and if we had any thing like that I would have known.

[GTX JOHN]

Nope.........Only A Body Big Blocks were in 1967 to 1969 A Bodys in Dart GTS only
and Barracuda Formula S and also a few 1969 "Cuda 440" non S models.

The 440 M code was factory available in the last month or two of 1969
Plymouth production thru all Plymouth Dealers.

The 69 Dart M code 440s .... I have seen back then were ONLY at Mr. Norms and
Saddleback Dodge in Tustin. They told me back then
that they had to order for stock a quantity of 20 at one time
to acquire them

In 68 I have only seen 440 Darts from Mr. Norms and no other one at all.

In latter part of 1967 Model you could get a 383 Dart GTS and Barracuda S

That is the best my ancient memory tells me from those days I did own
two of the Blue GTSs from Saddleback Dodge.

[Paul Wong]

They made 1969 440 darts and cudas only. They were the only production 440 a body mopar ever built. I happen to own one. They are neat cars but mopar never did it again. As John said they were M code cars.