1st gen Camaro bushings

BobUnkefer · 03-30-2011, 08:53 PM

Danged if I can find the thread that's in here somewhere on the best setup for front end bushings for 67-69 Camaro's.
Do remember that the general opinion was to stay away from poly bushings. But don't remember what/who had the best pieces.

Would like to redo the front end on my '68 and looking for input.

Appreciate your feedback
Unk

Alan Roehrich · 03-30-2011, 10:05 PM

Bob, Del-A-Lum, from Global West, for the bushings, TRW or Moog for upper control arm shafts, and TRW or Howe for the extended upper ball joints.

BobUnkefer · 03-30-2011, 10:22 PM

Alan,
I've looked at the Del-A-Lum bushings, do I need the offset shaft? or is the TRW Moog shaft all that's needed, and why not the offset shaft?

Appreciate the reply, thanks.

Unk

Mark Yacavone · 03-30-2011, 11:45 PM

Bob , The offset shafts should give you a few more degrees + caster without too much - camber (by using more alignment shims on the rear bolt)

B Aceves · 03-31-2011, 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

Bob, Del-A-Lum, from Global West, for the bushings, TRW or Moog for upper control arm shafts, and TRW or Howe for the extended upper ball joints.

Alan, im just wondering what do you find to gain by using a extended upper Ball joint on the
front of a Camaro ?

Alan Roehrich · 03-31-2011, 11:12 AM

I like the offset upper shafts to get a better range of adjustment for caster and camber. I like to see zero camber at race height, going down the track, with a lot of caster so the car wants to go straight and keep going straight, with minimal rolling resistance. If you can get plenty of caster, you can run as close to possible to actual zero toe, without wandering.

The extended upper ball joints help to correct the camber curve, so that the amount of camber change during front end travel is reduced.

Greg Barsamian · 03-31-2011, 11:17 AM

Unk, Contact Alf Wiebe: wiebemetal@shaw.ca,

B Aceves · 04-01-2011, 09:34 AM

Since they are legal in stock now I would strongly recommend these adjustable tie rods and
get away from any type of heating to the Spindle for Bump Steer adjustment.

3860 · 06-08-2011, 08:37 PM

The extended upper ball joints help to correct the camber curve, so that the amount of camber change during front end travel is reduced.

Sorry to drag this old thread back up. I am having the issue with the camber change with front end travel. Does anyone know the part number or source for the extended upper ball joints? Thanks

BTW it's a 67 Camaro

jrod2sc · 10-21-2011, 12:47 PM

Alan,

How do you determine which available stud length works best with the extened upper ball joints (my particular set up is for a '68 Camaro)?

Just by looking at Howe's website, there are a few stud length options to choose from.

http://www.howeracing.com/p-7926-how...oog-k5108.aspx

Many Thanks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

The extended upper ball joints help to correct the camber curve, so that the amount of camber change during front end travel is reduced.

03-30-2011, 08:53 PM	#1
BobUnkefer Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 465 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	1st gen Camaro bushings Danged if I can find the thread that's in here somewhere on the best setup for front end bushings for 67-69 Camaro's. Do remember that the general opinion was to stay away from poly bushings. But don't remember what/who had the best pieces. Would like to redo the front end on my '68 and looking for input. Appreciate your feedback Unk __________________ Bob Unkefer 4409 STK Last edited by BobUnkefer; 03-30-2011 at 09:00 PM.

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Alan Roehrich Veteran Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Murfreesboro TN Posts: 5,113 Likes: 1,571 Liked 1,827 Times in 414 Posts	Re: 1st gen Camaro bushings Bob, Del-A-Lum, from Global West, for the bushings, TRW or Moog for upper control arm shafts, and TRW or Howe for the extended upper ball joints. __________________ Alan Roehrich 212A G/S

03-30-2011, 10:22 PM	#3
BobUnkefer Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 465 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 1st gen Camaro bushings Alan, I've looked at the Del-A-Lum bushings, do I need the offset shaft? or is the TRW Moog shaft all that's needed, and why not the offset shaft? Appreciate the reply, thanks. Unk __________________ Bob Unkefer 4409 STK

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Mark Yacavone Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Miles From Nowhere Posts: 7,815 Likes: 2,904 Liked 5,121 Times in 1,952 Posts	Re: 1st gen Camaro bushings Bob , The offset shafts should give you a few more degrees + caster without too much - camber (by using more alignment shims on the rear bolt) __________________ "We are lucky we don't get as much Government as we pay for." Will Rogers

03-31-2011, 11:12 AM	#6
Alan Roehrich Veteran Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Murfreesboro TN Posts: 5,113 Likes: 1,571 Liked 1,827 Times in 414 Posts	Re: 1st gen Camaro bushings I like the offset upper shafts to get a better range of adjustment for caster and camber. I like to see zero camber at race height, going down the track, with a lot of caster so the car wants to go straight and keep going straight, with minimal rolling resistance. If you can get plenty of caster, you can run as close to possible to actual zero toe, without wandering. The extended upper ball joints help to correct the camber curve, so that the amount of camber change during front end travel is reduced. __________________ Alan Roehrich 212A G/S

03-31-2011, 11:17 AM	#7
Greg Barsamian VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Central Massachusetts Posts: 1,400 Likes: 714 Liked 419 Times in 96 Posts	Re: 1st gen Camaro bushings Unk, Contact Alf Wiebe: wiebemetal@shaw.ca,

04-01-2011, 09:34 AM	#8
B Aceves Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 457 Likes: 1 Liked 7 Times in 4 Posts	Re: 1st gen Camaro bushings Since they are legal in stock now I would strongly recommend these adjustable tie rods and get away from any type of heating to the Spindle for Bump Steer adjustment. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Bob Aceves, 746 E/SA A&M motorsports

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3860 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 1 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 1st gen Camaro bushings The extended upper ball joints help to correct the camber curve, so that the amount of camber change during front end travel is reduced. Sorry to drag this old thread back up. I am having the issue with the camber change with front end travel. Does anyone know the part number or source for the extended upper ball joints? Thanks BTW it's a 67 Camaro