Whats a chiller worth?

Tom Nolan · 09-01-2010, 09:08 AM

Whats a chiller worth? Not how much does it cost but what is it worth ET wise? I see lots of comp and SS racers have the quick attachments installed on their race cars, but have yet to see the cooler in action or the results! The manufactures have no data.....they just say "it has to make your car faster"! I'm not interested in spending money on the "trick of the week" however if it's worth some ET I'll find the money. Tom Nolan GT/AA 6015

Jeff Lee · 09-01-2010, 10:52 PM

Simple test. Run your GT/AA right off the trailer 3 runs in a row without stopping to cool it down between runs. By the time it's 220 degrees it should slow down considerably, right?
Now take it to the cool down area at your track. Run clean / cool water through the system, get it down to 50 degrees if you can. Then make a run. Is it faster?
That's your answer. No opinions, no claims, no money out of pocket, just see for yourself.
These chillers will get your engine water temp down to around 50 degrees quickly. Without a chiller, the ambient temperature may keep you from getting below 80-90 on some days (I live in AZ). You can make one out of an ice chest on the cheap. On a professional looking level, the one offered by Advanced Clutches is around $700. The most expensive I've seen are close to $1500.
That's quite a spread and I can't imagine one does a better job than the other.
You'll also save battery drain as you wont have to run your electric water pump and electric fan trying to cool down between rounds. I think we've all lost a round because your battery was lower than you thought.

vic guilmino · 09-02-2010, 08:50 AM

andd buy stock in a ice plant

Bryan Broaddus · 09-02-2010, 11:06 PM

That depends on what kind of beer you have!

SuperStockDodge · 09-06-2010, 10:03 AM

It works...I have seen temperatures as low as 33 degrees. I think there is at least 5 hundredths in doing this, maybe more (depends on the type of combination of course)

T Ketels · 09-09-2010, 02:11 PM

I've seen .05 with my NMCA Mean Street combination. I bought the cooler valves on ebay and used a sump pump to circulate the water in a cooler. But definitely, buy stock in an ice company.

Tim

Bob Pagano · 09-09-2010, 04:22 PM

What about using dry ice ? lasts a lot longer.

treessavoy · 09-09-2010, 06:33 PM

Some of the guys with converted coolers spent more than $100.00 on ice for the week at the Nat's but they really cool down the motor.

Speed Costs....How Fast Do You Want To Go?

JimR

Wade_Owens · 09-11-2010, 06:46 PM

I have to wonder, are the ring end gaps and the piston to wall changed for this setup to maximize its potential? Obviously, the block is warmer than that when honing and file fitting rings.....

Wade O

Wade Mahaffey · 09-11-2010, 11:21 PM

Take a look at racingjunk.com under Stock and Super/Stock. I think one may have been used while setting the GT/FA record at Englishtown this weekend

Wade Mahaffey

09-01-2010, 09:08 AM	#1
Tom Nolan Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Lacombe, Alberta, Canada Posts: 182 Likes: 0 Liked 64 Times in 11 Posts	Whats a chiller worth? Whats a chiller worth? Not how much does it cost but what is it worth ET wise? I see lots of comp and SS racers have the quick attachments installed on their race cars, but have yet to see the cooler in action or the results! The manufactures have no data.....they just say "it has to make your car faster"! I'm not interested in spending money on the "trick of the week" however if it's worth some ET I'll find the money. Tom Nolan GT/AA 6015

09-01-2010, 10:52 PM	#2
Jeff Lee VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anthem, Arizona Posts: 2,766 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Whats a chiller worth? Simple test. Run your GT/AA right off the trailer 3 runs in a row without stopping to cool it down between runs. By the time it's 220 degrees it should slow down considerably, right? Now take it to the cool down area at your track. Run clean / cool water through the system, get it down to 50 degrees if you can. Then make a run. Is it faster? That's your answer. No opinions, no claims, no money out of pocket, just see for yourself. These chillers will get your engine water temp down to around 50 degrees quickly. Without a chiller, the ambient temperature may keep you from getting below 80-90 on some days (I live in AZ). You can make one out of an ice chest on the cheap. On a professional looking level, the one offered by Advanced Clutches is around $700. The most expensive I've seen are close to $1500. That's quite a spread and I can't imagine one does a better job than the other. You'll also save battery drain as you wont have to run your electric water pump and electric fan trying to cool down between rounds. I think we've all lost a round because your battery was lower than you thought. __________________ Jeff Lee 7494 D/S '70 AMX

09-02-2010, 08:50 AM	#3
vic guilmino Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: wv Posts: 884 Likes: 42 Liked 56 Times in 21 Posts	Re: Whats a chiller worth? andd buy stock in a ice plant __________________ Vic Guilmino 1129 STK

09-02-2010, 11:06 PM	#4
Bryan Broaddus Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 104 Likes: 2 Liked 18 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Whats a chiller worth? That depends on what kind of beer you have! __________________ Bryan Broaddus 7568 STK ,SS

09-06-2010, 10:03 AM	#5
SuperStockDodge Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Stickville USA Posts: 261 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Whats a chiller worth? It works...I have seen temperatures as low as 33 degrees. I think there is at least 5 hundredths in doing this, maybe more (depends on the type of combination of course) __________________ Sean Fischer 5864 SS/E

09-09-2010, 02:11 PM	#6
T Ketels Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Dyersville, Iowa Posts: 52 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Whats a chiller worth? I've seen .05 with my NMCA Mean Street combination. I bought the cooler valves on ebay and used a sump pump to circulate the water in a cooler. But definitely, buy stock in an ice company. Tim

09-09-2010, 04:22 PM	#7
Bob Pagano VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New Holland, PA Mooresville,NC Posts: 1,163 Likes: 237 Liked 16 Times in 11 Posts	Re: Whats a chiller worth? What about using dry ice ? lasts a lot longer. __________________ Bob Pagano A/SA

09-09-2010, 06:33 PM	#8
treessavoy VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Dunnellon,FL Posts: 1,103 Likes: 0 Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Whats a chiller worth? Some of the guys with converted coolers spent more than $100.00 on ice for the week at the Nat's but they really cool down the motor. Speed Costs....How Fast Do You Want To Go? JimR __________________ Jim Rountree

09-11-2010, 06:46 PM	#9
Wade_Owens Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 578 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 1 Post	Re: Whats a chiller worth? I have to wonder, are the ring end gaps and the piston to wall changed for this setup to maximize its potential? Obviously, the block is warmer than that when honing and file fitting rings..... Wade O

09-11-2010, 11:21 PM	#10
Wade Mahaffey Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 581 Likes: 0 Liked 17 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Whats a chiller worth? Take a look at racingjunk.com under Stock and Super/Stock. I think one may have been used while setting the GT/FA record at Englishtown this weekend Wade Mahaffey