16 Volt Battery ?

SmBlkFord · 12-09-2012, 10:27 PM

I have read all the threads on here about a 16 volt system.would like to skip the alternator. Is it really necessary to run one?I charge bettween rounds and run electric fan,water and fuel pump and also an egt. There are so many mixed reviews about this not sure which way to go?After all I would not think your battery voltage would drop past 12 volts after a run?

Mark Madison · 12-09-2012, 11:40 PM

Do you drive the car to the starting line or tow it? Repeated starts would drain the battery below acceptable levels in my opinion.

Mark Madison

Dragsinger · 12-09-2012, 11:52 PM

a fully charged 16 volt with the load your explained will make at least 5 runs without charging.

Of course, when time allows, charge between rounds. We race two cars with one 16 volt charger, just rotate between cars every 2 - 3 run

I like the 16 volt upgrade, it gives me a smile every time I engage the starter. I like buying from Make Payne at House of Payne. he sells the Rock brand.

68camaroSS · 12-10-2012, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SmBlkFord

I have read all the threads on here about a 16 volt system.would like to skip the alternator. Is it really necessary to run one?I charge bettween rounds and run electric fan,water and fuel pump and also an egt. There are so many mixed reviews about this not sure which way to go?After all I would not think your battery voltage would drop past 12 volts after a run?

A lot of guys praise the 16 volt system. Guess it is a matter of personal preference. I tried the 16V but went back to the 12v with an alternator, like it much better. Have batteries fully charged on race day, no charging required between rounds, no hassles. I run 100 amp alternator and two 1000cca 12v batteries for the extra weight in the trunk. Have a racepak that I closely monitor the voltage each round and never an issue. course it never hurts to maintenance charge to keep batteries at 100% regardless of type of battery.

THE LEGEND · 12-10-2012, 09:44 PM

Listen to Woodfin. He knows.
Also I never had a 12v system with Alternator that I did not have to charge.

SmBlkFord · 12-10-2012, 11:59 PM

I drive it to and from the lanes.always seem to have those hard starts on those hot days.seems like guys who go 16 volt stick with it.thanks for the opinions

Jeff Lee · 12-11-2012, 12:02 AM

I have a PerformanceV battery and today just bought a 50a idle / 105a 16v alternator. I went with a full sized alternator instead of a mini.

Jim Johnston/6022 · 12-11-2012, 01:45 AM

I found out the hard way how many runs you can get on a 16 volt battery. All the usual draws (fuel &water pump,brake etc.) no charging system. Ran the # with a little # 2nd round and got bye 3rd. Reading et slip-why did it slow up a tenth, as engine quit. We were charging between rounds, but generator was not working properly-have since bought a new generator.

Ed Wright · 12-11-2012, 09:29 AM

If your running an EFI car you need to keep them charged. System voltage effects how fast your injectors open. Need to keep that constant. Also, if you change to or from 16 volts you will have to re-tune your air/ fuel. Makes that much difference. Therefore, if you take it out of the car and go put it on an engine dyno you need to use 16 volts there also.

NewHemi · 12-12-2012, 01:04 AM

We initially had periodic starting issues with the 6.1 hemi AND the 5.7 hemi at 12 volts.

We changed over to the 16V battery with mini alternator.

We always charged between rounds, both 12v and 16v.

Then at one race after we went to 16c, we lost the belt on the alternator. We ran the next couple of rounds without the alternator. But we did charge between rounds. And there was no problem starting through the lanes, fuel check, and scale.

Needless to say, we put the belt back on when we got a new one.

But it is nice to know that the car will start just fine without the alternator functioning during a race cycle.

David
The New Hemi Guy

12-09-2012, 10:27 PM	#1
SmBlkFord Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Bensonhurst Posts: 43 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	16 Volt Battery ? I have read all the threads on here about a 16 volt system.would like to skip the alternator. Is it really necessary to run one?I charge bettween rounds and run electric fan,water and fuel pump and also an egt. There are so many mixed reviews about this not sure which way to go?After all I would not think your battery voltage would drop past 12 volts after a run?

12-09-2012, 11:40 PM	#2
Mark Madison Junior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 85 Likes: 29 Liked 13 Times in 5 Posts	Re: 16 Volt Battery ? Do you drive the car to the starting line or tow it? Repeated starts would drain the battery below acceptable levels in my opinion. Mark Madison

12-09-2012, 11:52 PM	#3
Dragsinger VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Liberty City [East Texas] Posts: 1,759 Likes: 5 Liked 99 Times in 60 Posts	Re: 16 Volt Battery ? a fully charged 16 volt with the load your explained will make at least 5 runs without charging. Of course, when time allows, charge between rounds. We race two cars with one 16 volt charger, just rotate between cars every 2 - 3 run I like the 16 volt upgrade, it gives me a smile every time I engage the starter. I like buying from Make Payne at House of Payne. he sells the Rock brand. __________________ Larry Woodfin 471W

12-10-2012, 09:44 PM	#5
THE LEGEND VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Fayetteville, n.c. Posts: 1,411 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: 16 Volt Battery ? Listen to Woodfin. He knows. Also I never had a 12v system with Alternator that I did not have to charge.

12-10-2012, 11:59 PM	#6
SmBlkFord Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Bensonhurst Posts: 43 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 16 Volt Battery ? I drive it to and from the lanes.always seem to have those hard starts on those hot days.seems like guys who go 16 volt stick with it.thanks for the opinions

12-11-2012, 12:02 AM	#7
Jeff Lee VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anthem, Arizona Posts: 2,766 Likes: 0 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: 16 Volt Battery ? I have a PerformanceV battery and today just bought a 50a idle / 105a 16v alternator. I went with a full sized alternator instead of a mini. __________________ Jeff Lee 7494 D/S '70 AMX

12-11-2012, 01:45 AM	#8
Jim Johnston/6022 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: delta bc-down river from mission raceway Posts: 37 Likes: 0 Liked 13 Times in 6 Posts	Re: 16 Volt Battery ? I found out the hard way how many runs you can get on a 16 volt battery. All the usual draws (fuel &water pump,brake etc.) no charging system. Ran the # with a little # 2nd round and got bye 3rd. Reading et slip-why did it slow up a tenth, as engine quit. We were charging between rounds, but generator was not working properly-have since bought a new generator.

12-11-2012, 09:29 AM	#9
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 389 Times in 168 Posts	Re: 16 Volt Battery ? If your running an EFI car you need to keep them charged. System voltage effects how fast your injectors open. Need to keep that constant. Also, if you change to or from 16 volts you will have to re-tune your air/ fuel. Makes that much difference. Therefore, if you take it out of the car and go put it on an engine dyno you need to use 16 volts there also. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

12-12-2012, 01:04 AM	#10
NewHemi Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 472 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: 16 Volt Battery ? We initially had periodic starting issues with the 6.1 hemi AND the 5.7 hemi at 12 volts. We changed over to the 16V battery with mini alternator. We always charged between rounds, both 12v and 16v. Then at one race after we went to 16c, we lost the belt on the alternator. We ran the next couple of rounds without the alternator. But we did charge between rounds. And there was no problem starting through the lanes, fuel check, and scale. Needless to say, we put the belt back on when we got a new one. But it is nice to know that the car will start just fine without the alternator functioning during a race cycle. David The New Hemi Guy Last edited by NewHemi; 12-12-2012 at 01:10 AM.