HOME FORUM RULES CONTACT
     
   
   

Go Back   CLASS RACER FORUM > Class Racer Forums > Stock and Super Stock

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-25-2010, 08:13 AM   #1
Billy Nees
VIP Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: On a hilltop in Pa.
Posts: 4,485
Likes: 3,587
Liked 7,682 Times in 1,730 Posts
Default Disclaimer?

It's raining and I'm bored. Is there such a thing as a disclaimer that is given to a customer upon delivery of a DP or CJ? I know that T-Bolts and 68 Hemi Darts and Cudas had something affixed to the car. If there IS such a thing would anyone care to share it? Jeff Teuton?
__________________
Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS

I'm not spending 100K to win 2K
Billy Nees is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2010, 08:34 AM   #2
X-TECH MAN
Banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Lake Placid, Florida
Posts: 3,203
Likes: 1,047
Liked 235 Times in 110 Posts
Default Re: Disclaimer?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Nees View Post
It's raining and I'm bored. Is there such a thing as a disclaimer that is given to a customer upon delivery of a DP or CJ? I know that T-Bolts and 68 Hemi Darts and Cudas had something affixed to the car. If there IS such a thing would anyone care to share it? Jeff Teuton?
They should state "These cars are NOT real stock Eliminator cars".....LOL. Sorry I just had to throw that in there.
X-TECH MAN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2010, 08:42 AM   #3
Floyd Gomez
Member
 
Floyd Gomez's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 275
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: Disclaimer?

The only thing I have found is on the manufacturer tag it says Drag Program. I do know in the application process you must sign a form that states you agree never to title the car, never to put the car on the street and that the car is for racing purposes only.
Floyd Gomez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2010, 09:38 AM   #4
art leong
VIP Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Richmond Hill, Georgia
Posts: 2,003
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default Re: Disclaimer?

I believe a lot of this non titleing/non street driving. Has to do with the federal governments C.A.F.E. standards. and safety requirements
__________________
Art Leong 2095 SS
art leong is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2010, 09:51 AM   #5
Chris "drooze" Wertman
VIP Member
 
Chris "drooze" Wertman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Barberton Ohio
Posts: 1,114
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: Disclaimer?

Quote:
Originally Posted by art leong View Post
I believe a lot of this non titleing/non street driving. Has to do with the federal governments C.A.F.E. standards. and safety requirements
BINGO Art....people seem to be dim on this bitching about "Ooooooooooohhh I cant go into the dealer and buy one" Bullshiite, we did EXACTLY that.

And YES when the application was filled out a discalimer and a waiver of liablity , never to drive it on the street or title it.

Its a LIABLITY issue and an safety issue SIMPLE, those things didnt EXIST when the Tbolts and Lightweights were sold.

People apparently choose to ignore this in order to facilitate their position these cars "Arent available to the general public"

Nonsense utter nonsene.........

If CAFE and Safety standards had been in place in the 60's those cars would have never happened.

They were PURPOSE built race cars , now the same thing is happening but in order to avoid the army or trial lawyers and people waiting to piss on someones parade, NOW somehow its different ?

Bike, "Works" bikes are sold and brought into this country all the time and same thing, Honda and Aprilla both have gone after people who title them for street use as "Grey Market" in some cases .... Why well in the case of Honda, some dip**** street titles a race bike, ran it out an got killed on it , the FAMILY sued Honda ! Saying the bike didnt have adequate brakes ! So Honda decided that was enough so to prove that they were NOT in agreement the bikes should be used on the street they started going after people who were doing it just to have a record of not being "condoning" the practice.

What about Doug Duells Drag Pak ? It has a title ? Its as "street legal" as any stock elim car ? Is that one ok X-Tech ?
__________________
Chris "Drooze" Wertman 3132 (F/SA 2009 Challenger Drag Pak #24 with a best of 10.59)
Chris "drooze" Wertman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2010, 10:16 AM   #6
Jack McCarthy
VIP Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: lyndon ky. ... louisville area
Posts: 1,318
Likes: 28
Liked 457 Times in 113 Posts
Talking Re: Disclaimer?

"this vehicle was never produced and therefore ford (mopar) has absolutely no responibilities whatsoever towards the recipient of this vehicle. furthermore we take no responsibility express or implied for : repeated protests by fellow competitors, anti social behavior from fellow racers, and or violent attacks, physical or verbal, of racers or internet lurkers. also purchaser is hereby advised that the 1/4 mile performance will be in excess of any previous a-aa/s vehicle and driver should be prepared for excess g-forces and doors being blown off competitors vehicles"

captain jack

thanks billy that was fun !
__________________
Jack McCarthy 3609 STK
"the Captain"
Jack McCarthy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2010, 11:20 AM   #7
X-TECH MAN
Banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Lake Placid, Florida
Posts: 3,203
Likes: 1,047
Liked 235 Times in 110 Posts
Default Re: Disclaimer?

Quote:
Originally Posted by drooze View Post
BINGO Art....people seem to be dim on this bitching about "Ooooooooooohhh I cant go into the dealer and buy one" Bullshiite, we did EXACTLY that.

And YES when the application was filled out a discalimer and a waiver of liablity , never to drive it on the street or title it.

Its a LIABLITY issue and an safety issue SIMPLE, those things didnt EXIST when the Tbolts and Lightweights were sold.

People apparently choose to ignore this in order to facilitate their position these cars "Arent available to the general public"

Nonsense utter nonsene.........

If CAFE and Safety standards had been in place in the 60's those cars would have never happened.

They were PURPOSE built race cars , now the same thing is happening but in order to avoid the army or trial lawyers and people waiting to piss on someones parade, NOW somehow its different ?

Bike, "Works" bikes are sold and brought into this country all the time and same thing, Honda and Aprilla both have gone after people who title them for street use as "Grey Market" in some cases .... Why well in the case of Honda, some dip**** street titles a race bike, ran it out an got killed on it , the FAMILY sued Honda ! Saying the bike didnt have adequate brakes ! So Honda decided that was enough so to prove that they were NOT in agreement the bikes should be used on the street they started going after people who were doing it just to have a record of not being "condoning" the practice.

What about Doug Duells Drag Pak ? It has a title ? Its as "street legal" as any stock elim car ? Is that one ok X-Tech ?
NO.....That engine is not avaliable in a showroom stock car even though he built the car from a "real one". Can you say NHRA CRATE MOTERED CAR ! At least IHRA seperates the crate motored cars from the other stockers into thier own class.
X-TECH MAN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2010, 11:23 AM   #8
X-TECH MAN
Banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Lake Placid, Florida
Posts: 3,203
Likes: 1,047
Liked 235 Times in 110 Posts
Talking Re: Disclaimer?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack McCarthy View Post
"this vehicle was never produced and therefore ford (mopar) has absolutely no responibilities whatsoever towards the recipient of this vehicle. furthermore we take no responsibility express or implied for : repeated protests by fellow competitors, anti social behavior from fellow racers, and or violent attacks, physical or verbal, of racers or internet lurkers. also purchaser is hereby advised that the 1/4 mile performance will be in excess of any previous a-aa/s vehicle and driver should be prepared for excess g-forces and doors being blown off competitors vehicles"

captain jack

thanks billy that was fun !
You forgot H/S and H/SA plus a few more classes so they dont have to run each other heads up and get "ENHANCED" when enough of them get finished !

Last edited by X-TECH MAN; 04-25-2010 at 11:48 AM.
X-TECH MAN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2010, 11:36 AM   #9
Alan Roehrich
Veteran Member
 
Alan Roehrich's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Murfreesboro TN
Posts: 5,105
Likes: 1,561
Liked 1,787 Times in 408 Posts
Default Re: Disclaimer?

Quote:
Originally Posted by drooze View Post
What about Doug Duells Drag Pak ? It has a title ? Its as "street legal" as any stock elim car ? Is that one ok X-Tech ?
It was my understanding that Doug's car is in fact NOT a Drag Pack car, he couldn't get one, and had to build his own. That was the story that went around.
__________________
Alan Roehrich
212A G/S
Alan Roehrich is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2010, 11:40 AM   #10
Alan Roehrich
Veteran Member
 
Alan Roehrich's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Murfreesboro TN
Posts: 5,105
Likes: 1,561
Liked 1,787 Times in 408 Posts
Default Re: Disclaimer?

If NHRA wanted to allow racers to get around the weight added by safety and emissions standards, they could have created an adjustment, either a set weight, or a percentage of the total weight, to be removed from the shipping weight.

And purpose built race cars were kept out of Stock, at least traditionally, for a reason. We're seeing the reason right now. It sure as Hell didn't have anything to do with federal safety or emissions mandates.
__________________
Alan Roehrich
212A G/S
Alan Roehrich is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:17 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright Class Racer.com. All Rights Reserved. Designated trademarks and brands are the property of their respective owners.