Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser - Page 2

trode424 · Yesterday, 04:11 PM

This is blatant cheating. Not gray area stuff. Building something to make it look different. Not sure how you are able to go to the next race and look at your competitors in the staging lane.

lstanford · Yesterday, 04:38 PM

I think this is covered in chapter two of the Jerry Eckman rule book. Look what cheating did for him. My only question, " How good can you feel about winning when you know you are cheating?". NHRA is not helping enforce the rules with a mickey mouse fine. Cheating racers should be barred from racing for a year. If they want the automobile manufacturers involved in these classes, then they are going to have to do a much better job of enforcing and policing the rules. If not, these classes are dead on arrival. Maybe just pump the motors for cubic inches and then let the racers do whatever they want with blowers and pulleys etc. Let's make it a real free for all. Maybe call it Factory Bar Fight.

L.Fite · Yesterday, 06:36 PM

Soo...
Was this the same infraction for all of the above mentioned cars?
Seems a lot of people making same "mistake"...
Any common denominators?

Asking for a friend...

reig3 · Yesterday, 07:42 PM

Alex Laughlin has a post regarding that from Geoff Turk on Facebook. I tried to post it here, it's too long. This thread answers the "why is he posting this" thoughts.

Paul Precht · Yesterday, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reig3

Alex Laughlin has a post regarding that from Geoff Turk on Facebook. I tried to post it here, it's too long. This thread answers the "why is he posting this" thoughts.

I read it here, it's the 8th post down.
https://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar...t-indy.569029/

Mike Schwartz · Yesterday, 09:34 PM

Why was one participant disqualified, with loss of all points and a fine, while the others were allowed to make corrections and continue racing, were fined, but only lost 100 points?

Adger Smith · Today, 12:20 PM

Same teeth! Yes.
A few years ago when I was Tech director for our Local college go cart race I ran into the similar alterations to the drive sprockets to pick up the gear ratio.

340Cuda · Today, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Schwartz

Why was one participant disqualified, with loss of all points and a fine, while the others were allowed to make corrections and continue racing, were fined, but only lost 100 points?

That is a very good question.

From what the Turks said the pulley had the right number of teeth but was a larger diameter. A pulley that they had fabricated. They said it also had a cover on it to make it harder to see.

No one has been able to tell me if the infraction was caught before racing, during or after.

It would seem like NHRA needs to modify the rules to set a diameter as well as a tooth count.

Bill

Frank Castros · Today, 01:51 PM

The N.H.R.A. Technical Dept. has completely lost any integrity it may have had before this debacle and at the biggest event of the year no less.
Lonnie Grim must restore confidence in the process of enforcing the Rule book. It won't be easy.

Yesterday, 04:11 PM	#11
trode424 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2021 Posts: 14 Likes: 2 Liked 8 Times in 5 Posts	Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser This is blatant cheating. Not gray area stuff. Building something to make it look different. Not sure how you are able to go to the next race and look at your competitors in the staging lane.

Yesterday, 04:38 PM	#12
lstanford Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 312 Likes: 1 Liked 134 Times in 31 Posts	Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser I think this is covered in chapter two of the Jerry Eckman rule book. Look what cheating did for him. My only question, " How good can you feel about winning when you know you are cheating?". NHRA is not helping enforce the rules with a mickey mouse fine. Cheating racers should be barred from racing for a year. If they want the automobile manufacturers involved in these classes, then they are going to have to do a much better job of enforcing and policing the rules. If not, these classes are dead on arrival. Maybe just pump the motors for cubic inches and then let the racers do whatever they want with blowers and pulleys etc. Let's make it a real free for all. Maybe call it Factory Bar Fight.

Yesterday, 06:36 PM	#13
L.Fite Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 424 Likes: 426 Liked 388 Times in 196 Posts	Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser Soo... Was this the same infraction for all of the above mentioned cars? Seems a lot of people making same "mistake"... Any common denominators? Asking for a friend...

Yesterday, 07:42 PM	#14
reig3 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2024 Posts: 6 Likes: 117 Liked 11 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser Alex Laughlin has a post regarding that from Geoff Turk on Facebook. I tried to post it here, it's too long. This thread answers the "why is he posting this" thoughts.

Yesterday, 09:34 PM	#16
Mike Schwartz Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Maryland USA Posts: 502 Likes: 101 Liked 202 Times in 68 Posts	Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser Why was one participant disqualified, with loss of all points and a fine, while the others were allowed to make corrections and continue racing, were fined, but only lost 100 points?

Today, 12:20 PM	#17
Adger Smith VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Texarkana Ark/TX Posts: 2,395 Likes: 492 Liked 723 Times in 279 Posts	Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser Same teeth! Yes. A few years ago when I was Tech director for our Local college go cart race I ran into the similar alterations to the drive sprockets to pick up the gear ratio. __________________ Adger Smith (Former SS) Last edited by Adger Smith; Today at 12:22 PM. Reason: sp

Today, 01:51 PM	#19
Frank Castros VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The Lowcountry. Posts: 2,733 Likes: 2,241 Liked 2,270 Times in 829 Posts	Re: Fine them and then make it legal. Wowwser The N.H.R.A. Technical Dept. has completely lost any integrity it may have had before this debacle and at the biggest event of the year no less. Lonnie Grim must restore confidence in the process of enforcing the Rule book. It won't be easy.