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Old 09-19-2021, 08:41 AM   #27
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Default Re: Project - NHRA Stock and S/S results 61-68

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Ed Terry’s car in the picture is a little dark but does look like a 66 from the trim – the text says both 66 and 67. Maybe somebody knows for sure. The 66 & 67 Fairlanes were twins except for trim, grille, taillights, etc.-

PAUL CEASRINE DEBATES THIS ON THE 1966 SuperStock Nationals thread. He claims the 67s were heavier. Thus the difference in class.



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Did you mean this thread?
"1967 Superstock Nationals"
https://classracer.com/classforum/sh...t=47314&page=3

Page 2:
(Paul)
I forgot to add in the Ford's.

* SS/B ..... Jerry Harvey ~ 1966 Fairlane 'Sedan' ~ 427/425 HP
* SS/B ..... John Downing ~ 1966 Fairlane 500 ~ 427/425 HP
* SS/B ..... Bill Ireland ~ 1966 Fairlane 500 ~ 427/425 HP
* SS/C ..... Harold Dutton ~ 1967 Fairlane 500 ~ 427/425 HP
* SS/C ..... Hubert Platt ~ 1967 Fairlane 500 ~ 427/425 HP
* SS/C ..... Ed Skelton ~ 1967 Fairlane 500 ~ 427/425 HP
* SS/C ..... Nate Cohen - Wally Lynn ~ 1967 Fairlane 500 ~ 427/425 HP

* SS/E ..... Ed Warren ~ {1967 Mustang GT ~ 390/320 HP}



I think if you read further down (I see we both did at one time!) Paul realizes further down the thread that Platt's SS/C was from 1968.
This is why I *always* use the class W/P number after the class. The class letter back then meant *nothing* as they changed every doggone year. Drove me nuts until I started adding the number eg
AA/S=7.00
SS/B=7.00 (for 1967)
SS/C=7.70 (for 1967)
SS/C=7.00 (for 1968)
etc



Page 3 Paul actually lists the car weights, which are identical for 1966-67.
AFAIK there were NO Lightweight Fairlanes.
There was a glass hood that took off 40 lb, but that was it.
A garden variety 390 Fairlane and a 427 "Lightweight" Fairlane weighed the same - except for the 40 lb glass hood.
Of course, these numbers are the published SHIPPING weights. Gutted, stripped, etc. Real cars in your driveway were about 200 lb heavier.

From Paul's Page 3:
1966 Ford Fairlane


Model .................... 427/410 HP ........ 427/410 HP ...... 427/425 HP
............................... Steel Hood ......... Glass Hood ....... Glass Hood

Sedan .................... #3280 lbs. .......... #3240 lbs. ......... #3260 lbs.

Hardtop.................. #3320 lbs. .......... #3280 lbs. .......... #3300 lbs.

500 Hardtop ......... #3400 lbs. ........... #3360 lbs. .......... #3380 lbs.
(End of Paul's pg3 quote)

The 66-67 Fairlane saga is really messy because of the glass hood, only factory on the 57 cars produced with it in 1966. FoMoCo made about 229 more 427 Fairlanes and 60 Comets in 1967 but all steel flat hoods. FoMoCo had some fast cars but they didnt build too many because they didnt want to embarrass Mopar or GM on the street. (That was a Joke, but at least half of it is true. To this day I dont think I've ever seen a REAL factory 427 Fairlane on the street, but seen plenty of factory Hemi's for sure).

Pretty much:
* If you see a Fairlane with a glass hood, it *probably* ran in the 7.00 class.
* If you see a 427 Fairlane with a steel hood, it probably ran in the 7.70 or 8.00 class.
One exception: In 1967 ONLY best I can figure, the glass hood 427-4v Fairlane ran in the SS/C=7.70 class. That combo was never factory and disappeared in 1968.

Of course TODAY, you can run whatever you want pretty much, all kinds of combos that never left the factory.

It's useful to get all this down.
I sure hope we are getting it right or one of those "old people" ( a goad) reads all this & corrects it.

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