CLASS RACER FORUM - View Single Post - Bigger Pushrods & Guideplates Legal in Stock now

james schaechter · 05-25-2008, 07:32 AM

I think the rule changing should stop during the racing season unless some immediate safety need arises. Think about the HP factor requests. They come in 2 times a year I think. Maybe there should be a specific time for requests and a process that is more transparent to the reps and the racers. It could mean that NHRA tech gets all requests and then the committee should then review then with reps once a year. After all that, the requests along with explainations get posted prior to giving a thumbs up or down. That way there is input from all to help with the committee decision.

The problem with the committee and system now is that it seems that the unintended consequences are not considered.In the current state of the rules, if you are afraid or unwilling to accept breakage, turn the rpm down, lower the pressure, etc. I have also seen many times even on this forum, the racer opinions of slow cars that are just thinking that if only they had this part or that part, then they would move up on the qualifying sheet or perhaps win class. The problem is that they don't often consider that everyone else faster will also benefit from the rule changes.
The rocker arm deal is one I understand, but is still is a limiting factor in engine design and cost. It should have been allowed and the spring pressure could have been limited, but it wasnt' so...We push our stuff as far as we think it will go. If we want to go quicker, we push it a little farther. That increases our risk of breakage. That is a decision each one of us makes and one that each one of us is responsible for. If roller rockers are made legal, It won't be that I just bolt them on, I will order cams and guidelplates and pushrods too. You think that the cam is square now, wait until the rocker arms are legal. The 396 cars will really put the sprng pressure on too.Someone mentioned that then Jesel rocker shafts are next $$$. Many others will push it. I guess the point is that there is no need for a mid season rule change in most cases. Maybe our reps should be part of a redesign of the rule change process. That really is the issue. Some of the committee members in NHRA tech could benefit from modern racer input too. This could be an opportunity to help everyone overall.

BTW, who was pushing for the guideplate pushrod deal? Curious on that one? Jim.

05-25-2008, 07:32 AM	#15
james schaechter VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cumming GA Posts: 1,984 Likes: 1,276 Liked 1,423 Times in 294 Posts	Re: Bigger Pushrods & Guideplates Legal in Stock now I think the rule changing should stop during the racing season unless some immediate safety need arises. Think about the HP factor requests. They come in 2 times a year I think. Maybe there should be a specific time for requests and a process that is more transparent to the reps and the racers. It could mean that NHRA tech gets all requests and then the committee should then review then with reps once a year. After all that, the requests along with explainations get posted prior to giving a thumbs up or down. That way there is input from all to help with the committee decision. The problem with the committee and system now is that it seems that the unintended consequences are not considered.In the current state of the rules, if you are afraid or unwilling to accept breakage, turn the rpm down, lower the pressure, etc. I have also seen many times even on this forum, the racer opinions of slow cars that are just thinking that if only they had this part or that part, then they would move up on the qualifying sheet or perhaps win class. The problem is that they don't often consider that everyone else faster will also benefit from the rule changes. The rocker arm deal is one I understand, but is still is a limiting factor in engine design and cost. It should have been allowed and the spring pressure could have been limited, but it wasnt' so...We push our stuff as far as we think it will go. If we want to go quicker, we push it a little farther. That increases our risk of breakage. That is a decision each one of us makes and one that each one of us is responsible for. If roller rockers are made legal, It won't be that I just bolt them on, I will order cams and guidelplates and pushrods too. You think that the cam is square now, wait until the rocker arms are legal. The 396 cars will really put the sprng pressure on too.Someone mentioned that then Jesel rocker shafts are next $$$. Many others will push it. I guess the point is that there is no need for a mid season rule change in most cases. Maybe our reps should be part of a redesign of the rule change process. That really is the issue. Some of the committee members in NHRA tech could benefit from modern racer input too. This could be an opportunity to help everyone overall. BTW, who was pushing for the guideplate pushrod deal? Curious on that one? Jim. __________________ James Schaechter 3163 STK Last edited by james schaechter; 05-25-2008 at 07:34 AM.