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Originally Posted by buzzinhalfdozen
Soooo..... are you wanting someones blessing to cheat? Just because the rulebook doesn't specifically state you can't do it doesn't mean you can, I found that out the hard way. Ever since when ever I had some sort of "out of the box" idea I'd run it by an Official first, saves alot of head aches. I'd try to make the motor last a race or two before I'd be trying to reinvent the wheel. But cudos on your imagination. Joe
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I thought the original post where I said this had nothing to do with the DP would have been enough that it wasnt for the DP car, in as much as a motor, well were getting ready to build the replacments now, and that gives me some shopside time here at home to work on this as well in the coming weeks.
Not in the least, I am going to build a proof of concept on another engine, that has been planned for a long time, Im working with a material that has properties you arent really used to seeing in a solid before it transitions.
Now that being said, I am doing it period I am going to try it, the percentage of a significant sucess is I estimate 2-3 percent. That all , but the only way to see if the result is desirable is to try it.
This ideas application has several side effect one lowering exhaust valve temperatures but possibly 3-400 degrees, as well as increasing combustion pressure by perhaps up from 7-10% a significant amount in my book.
The QUESTION on it being specifically ILLEGAL, was an afterthought, a "Holy cow nothing in the rules disallows this" It wasnt meant for application on a drag engine , originally. But a say 5% power increase in my book IF it were succesful (a 2-3% chance it would be) then well the possiblity for use in a Drag engine becomes obvious.
I am not going to bother an NHRA official with it UNLESS it works, then Ill ask, I wont be suprised at the answer if its NO, but there has to be a REASON for the answer, if I was going to put it in the intake air chage that is specifically NOT allowed, hence there would be a reason, but, well....I asked if Titanium valve springs were allowed in Stock and the answer was "If It dosent specifically make mention of the material, and in the case of springs no materials are mentioned so YES you can use Titanium springs" That from Bruce Bachelder. So, to me that would follow the same logic for this pattern.
So far, some have given reasonable opinions as to why they think it would get axed, those I appreciate, I see the reasoning, and they are food for thought, as was the WHOLE purpose of the thread, "Thinking out loud" as it were.
That being said, not a single person has pointed me to a rule in the book that would disallow it, NOW In abscence of a rule that is in black and white, it raises this to be something that IF successful is WORTH asking, it looks pretty stupid to ASK Something that it says NO to explicitly, it is NOT stupid to ask on something that is not disallowed, whats the worst that could happen ? The answer would be no.
If I were going to cheat which is something I cannot and will not do, I find it useless, anyone can cheat and win, anyone. To do it above board is the challenge. If I were the type of person to cheat do you think I would ask it here for all to see ? I mean really....
Is it a longshot, hell yes, like all longshots the payoffs are big if it were to be successful.
If......my ether injection idea woulda worked too before my dad kiboshed that one on my minibike....sounded like a good idea when I was 9, in retrospect having a can with a solenoid under my legs fogging ether into a 10 hp Techumsa on a Rupp frame wasnt a great idea, but in all fairness he did let me put the 10hp motor on the minibike
