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Ken Miele · 03-02-2009, 07:31 AM

Bill,

My combo is rated at 400, unlike all the other Shelby's, I'm the only Shelby that runs the F5 head. I guess 400 hp is still soft for some, but I think I'm right in the pack with the fast guys.

The carb I use might be generous, but the compression is what it should be. All 67's Shelby's had a small combustion chamber along with a flat top piston. As far as the cam goes, the .490 lift cam that came in the 68 CJ's is not the same as the .500 lift that came in the '67 Shelby. NHRA did allow us a optional cam at .527 lift for all Shelby and CJ's but this cam was listed in Fords 1968 High Performance Parts book. It actually tells you how to blueprint your 428 for stock and super stock. In stock it gives you compete engine blueprint specs and the optional .527 lift cam. I know this cam was disallowed back in 68 or 69, but Ford did give the option. I know that the argument will be made that Shelby's and CJ's did not come from the factory with this cam, but I wanted to let you know where the cam came from. It just did not come out of the blue so to speak. Although Shelby's do get some generous gifts, how many other combo's have received gifts also. I guess it comes down to the degree of presents you have received.

It does not bother me that other combo's may or may not be the way they came from the factory, I am not a purist, the class is dynamic not static, if it was, it would not have survived. Could you possible image us running with points and mechanical fuel pumps, steel wheels, inferior tires, stock exhaust? I could go on and on. Change is going to happen whether we like it or not.

NHRA made it legal, it is what it is. The only way it would be an advantage to me is if no one else was allowed to build one.

Looking forward to Indy, but to be realistic, out running the new CJ's will be one tough hill to climb.

Be careful Jim, the admin does not forget.

03-02-2009, 07:31 AM	#55
Ken Miele Live Reporter Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 4,898 Likes: 472 Liked 17,128 Times in 1,558 Posts	Re: Anybody know if Don Garlits is bringing the Challenger to Bradenton, FL this week Bill, My combo is rated at 400, unlike all the other Shelby's, I'm the only Shelby that runs the F5 head. I guess 400 hp is still soft for some, but I think I'm right in the pack with the fast guys. The carb I use might be generous, but the compression is what it should be. All 67's Shelby's had a small combustion chamber along with a flat top piston. As far as the cam goes, the .490 lift cam that came in the 68 CJ's is not the same as the .500 lift that came in the '67 Shelby. NHRA did allow us a optional cam at .527 lift for all Shelby and CJ's but this cam was listed in Fords 1968 High Performance Parts book. It actually tells you how to blueprint your 428 for stock and super stock. In stock it gives you compete engine blueprint specs and the optional .527 lift cam. I know this cam was disallowed back in 68 or 69, but Ford did give the option. I know that the argument will be made that Shelby's and CJ's did not come from the factory with this cam, but I wanted to let you know where the cam came from. It just did not come out of the blue so to speak. Although Shelby's do get some generous gifts, how many other combo's have received gifts also. I guess it comes down to the degree of presents you have received. It does not bother me that other combo's may or may not be the way they came from the factory, I am not a purist, the class is dynamic not static, if it was, it would not have survived. Could you possible image us running with points and mechanical fuel pumps, steel wheels, inferior tires, stock exhaust? I could go on and on. Change is going to happen whether we like it or not. NHRA made it legal, it is what it is. The only way it would be an advantage to me is if no one else was allowed to build one. Looking forward to Indy, but to be realistic, out running the new CJ's will be one tough hill to climb. Be careful Jim, the admin does not forget.