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sean1970ss 03-07-2025 07:08 PM

427 BBC pistons closed chamber ideas or?
 
Looking at building a .060 427. Have a set of 291 closed chamber heads that flow very well. Any idea on a light piston? Any rod length at this point.

L.Fite 03-07-2025 10:54 PM

Re: 427 BBC pistons closed chamber ideas or?
 
How light ad how much do you want to spend?
Any of the major piston manufacturer should be able to fix you up.
Je
CP
Wiseco even.

Alan Roehrich 03-08-2025 04:49 PM

Re: 427 BBC pistons closed chamber ideas or?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sean1970ss (Post 710343)
Looking at building a .060 427. Have a set of 291 closed chamber heads that flow very well. Any idea on a light piston? Any rod length at this point.




Application?


Goal?

sean1970ss 03-13-2025 08:36 AM

Re: 427 BBC pistons closed chamber ideas or?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich (Post 710382)
Application?


Goal?

Drag/Street deal for an old car I have with a 5 speed liberty. Make as much HP N/A Old idea I have had for a long time high RPM motor. Thank you Alan!! Sean

Alan Roehrich 03-13-2025 09:03 AM

Re: 427 BBC pistons closed chamber ideas or?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sean1970ss (Post 710539)
Drag/Street deal for an old car I have with a 5 speed liberty. Make as much HP N/A Old idea I have had for a long time high RPM motor. Thank you Alan!! Sean


Pump gas? Race gas? Roller cam? How fast are you trying to go?


Most all of the "shelf stock" pistons are going to be for the stock for. They're going to have a 1/16", 1/16", 3/16" ring package. You could have something made, Vic Ellenger at Wiseco will hook you up.

sean1970ss 03-13-2025 09:45 AM

Re: 427 BBC pistons closed chamber ideas or?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich (Post 710541)
Pump gas? Race gas? Roller cam? How fast are you trying to go?


Most all of the "shelf stock" pistons are going to be for the stock for. They're going to have a 1/16", 1/16", 3/16" ring package. You could have something made, Vic Ellenger at Wiseco will hook you up.

Alan,

E-85 Roller cam, I would be stoked to be in the mid to low 9's or in the 5's eight mile. Local we just have 1/8th 1/4 is over 5 hours since HRP is gone. I really appreciate your insights. I can post up my cam specs to. Would I be better off with a open chamber head? 990 or 088?

Alan Roehrich 03-13-2025 12:55 PM

Re: 427 BBC pistons closed chamber ideas or?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sean1970ss (Post 710551)
Alan,

E-85 Roller cam, I would be stoked to be in the mid to low 9's or in the 5's eight mile. Local we just have 1/8th 1/4 is over 5 hours since HRP is gone. I really appreciate your insights. I can post up my cam specs to. Would I be better off with a open chamber head? 990 or 088?


An open chamber head will flow better. But you can make big power with a closed chamber head.



Cam specs might help.


How much HP do you need to achieve your goal?

Stan Weiss 03-14-2025 10:51 AM

Re: 427 BBC pistons closed chamber ideas or?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich (Post 710562)
An open chamber head will flow better. But you can make big power with a closed chamber head.



Cam specs might help.


How much HP do you need to achieve your goal?


I will ask this question a different way. What is the race weight with you in it for you vehicle?


Stan

sean1970ss 03-14-2025 10:05 PM

Re: 427 BBC pistons closed chamber ideas or?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss (Post 710592)
I will ask this question a different way. What is the race weight with you in it for you vehicle?


Stan

Stan,

3400lb sir with my skinny butt in it LOL.

Alan Roehrich 03-15-2025 09:02 AM

Re: 427 BBC pistons closed chamber ideas or?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sean1970ss (Post 710606)
Stan,

3400lb sir with my skinny butt in it LOL.


So you need a solid 750-770HP. To be honest, that will not be easy with a 427, You're going to need a 288/298/108 or so cam and at least an 850 carburetor, and that assumes a good intake and heads. Rod length will not make a difference, you'll need about 12.25:1 compression. You're going to end up with what amounts to an average Super Stock engine, but you can use a better carburetor and get there easier. You could use any good shelf stock closed chamber 427 piston. Should be able to get one from Wiseco or JE, for sure.


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