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goinbroke2 09-18-2024 10:11 AM

C4 help needed
 
Have a 1975 c4 with a broader performance reverse pattern valve body. Followed directions exactly (so I thought) I have p,r,n,locked, 2nd,3rd. Pulled the valve body and double checked all my springs/balls/grinding and everything looks like the diagram. Put it back in, the same. Pulled the valve body and put a stock one in and it works normal. Pulled the stock one and went through the reverse pattern one again, triple checking.
It appears it's in 1st and rev (tranny brake) but I don't have a tranny brake and didn't grind the hole to install one, but, it's acting like one.

This morning I went back out and installed the reverse pattern one and fired it up....I now have P,nothing,neutral,1st,2nd,3rd.

So now I have 1st but no reverse. I'm going to run it for a bit and make sure the oil level is good but if it runs 1,2,3...

Anything obvious I'm missing here? I'm not doing something right, I just don't know what. Had rev/1st which locked it, now I have no reverse and I have 1st...I don't know the circuits enough to know what that means.

Help.

Someone (Gary Lucier?) posted some links to a c4 build but of course I can't find them...

Mike Gray 09-18-2024 11:46 AM

Re: C4 help needed
 
Check out Class Racer Builds pg2 C4 build by “West Coast”

goinbroke2 09-18-2024 11:56 AM

Re: C4 help needed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Gray (Post 703024)
Check out Class Racer Builds pg2 C4 build by ?West Coast?

Thank you! (I knew somebody knew where it was, lol)

jmantle 09-18-2024 03:54 PM

Re: C4 help needed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by goinbroke2 (Post 703022)
Have a 1975 c4 with a broader performance reverse pattern valve body. Followed directions exactly (so I thought) I have p,r,n,locked, 2nd,3rd. Pulled the valve body and double checked all my springs/balls/grinding and everything looks like the diagram. Put it back in, the same. Pulled the valve body and put a stock one in and it works normal. Pulled the stock one and went through the reverse pattern one again, triple checking.
It appears it's in 1st and rev (tranny brake) but I don't have a tranny brake and didn't grind the hole to install one, but, it's acting like one.

This morning I went back out and installed the reverse pattern one and fired it up....I now have P,nothing,neutral,1st,2nd,3rd.

So now I have 1st but no reverse. I'm going to run it for a bit and make sure the oil level is good but if it runs 1,2,3...

Anything obvious I'm missing here? I'm not doing something right, I just don't know what. Had rev/1st which locked it, now I have no reverse and I have 1st...I don't know the circuits enough to know what that means.

Help.

Someone (Gary Lucier?) posted some links to a c4 build but of course I can't find them...

If it's locking up in the first gear position but the rest of the gears are normal, sounds like the high gear clutch is applying, as it would if you had a transbrake applied. Sounds like something is misassembled, I'd start by checking out the 2-3 shift valve.

fordteacherguy 09-19-2024 10:33 AM

Re: C4 help needed
 
Jay has a video addressing installing his manual VB kit. His products are top notch..so double check installation procedures. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OrT9JcNvPQ

James Boyce (West Coast) also has has a complete c4 build under Class Racer Builds Section..its at the top of page 2... easy to find...good luck!

Mark Yacavone 09-19-2024 12:35 PM

Re: C4 help needed
 
What do you need a reverse pattern , Tbrake valve body for , if I might ask.
The trans seems the work, so why not just buy a TransGo manual shift for a hundred buck and be done with it? Sounds like you're a glutton for punishment LOL

Billy Nees 09-19-2024 04:03 PM

Re: C4 help needed
 
Ummm, just asking for a friend, wasn't there an "issue" with imitation Made-in-China Broader Performance valve bodies recently?

pmrphil 09-19-2024 04:56 PM

Re: C4 help needed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 703097)
Ummm, just asking for a friend, wasn't there an "issue" with imitation Made-in-China Broader Performance valve bodies recently?

Only the junk sold by Summit and others. Jay does not sell through any of the mail order houses, only direct.

CMcAllister 09-19-2024 07:22 PM

Re: C4 help needed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pmrphil (Post 703098)
Only the junk sold by Summit and others. Jay does not sell through any of the mail order houses, only direct.


OP did not say where he purchased the VB.

pmrphil 09-19-2024 07:36 PM

Re: C4 help needed
 
Yes, in his "class racer build" thread he had mentioned getting a package delivered from Broader Performance.


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