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littlemanjoe 08-06-2024 07:53 PM

Going rich coming off the 2 step
 
When I let go of the brake and the car comes off the two step, the O2's show way rich. They go down to 9ish or 10ish then go up to 12's towards the bottom of second gear.

Is this normal or is there a way to lean out the carbs a touch at the launch?

My car has Holleys on it.

Thanks,
Mike
A/SA

1700camaro 08-07-2024 09:22 AM

Re: Going rich coming off the 2 step
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by littlemanjoe (Post 701112)
When I let go of the brake and the car comes off the two step, the O2's show way rich. They go down to 9ish or 10ish then go up to 12's towards the bottom of second gear.

Is this normal or is there a way to lean out the carbs a touch at the launch?

My car has Holleys on it.

Thanks,
Mike
A/SA

What are the O2's showing while on the two-step?

littlemanjoe 08-07-2024 10:44 AM

Re: Going rich coming off the 2 step
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1700camaro (Post 701146)
What are the O2's showing while on the two-step?

They show lean on the 2-step.

1700camaro 08-07-2024 12:24 PM

Re: Going rich coming off the 2 step
 
I have the same issues on/coming off the two-step.

I wish I could help you with your tune on your carb. I use a Holley TBI & have done some tuning to help with the situation & it paid off with some pretty good gains in the 60'.

When we 1st started with our new combo 2 years ago, TBI & a ProCharger. We had crappy 1.45 60's & we saw the O2 issues in the data logs.

While our TBI functions differently than a carb. I added fuel to the table while on the two-step. My 1st change got us 1.35 60's. We have continued to make changes in that area & have gotten into the 1.2x 60's.

Our data logs still show lean on the limiter & fat coming off. It has significantly improved both on & coming off the limiter. Still trying to work the issue.

pmrphil 08-07-2024 01:33 PM

Re: Going rich coming off the 2 step
 
Fuel level control would be the place to start

Larry Hill 08-08-2024 07:50 AM

Re: Going rich coming off the 2 step
 
You might try some whistles in the carbs.

Ben Holt 08-08-2024 12:03 PM

Re: Going rich coming off the 2 step
 
O2's will be lean on 2 step (especially if they are just in each collector) because holes are misfiring. Then it will usually show fat when feet are swapped because of the load change on the engine and velocity going into carbs. Some combos are fine this way. Some like to be changed around. If numbers down track are rich, try leaning it down until it slows down. If numbers down track are decent, it's squirters, pumps, bleeds, floats,etc

pmrphil 08-08-2024 02:07 PM

Re: Going rich coming off the 2 step
 
Squirters and pumps cannot affect readings after your foot is on the floor on the chip, unless you leave while still moving your foot. :confused:

Ben Holt 08-08-2024 02:33 PM

Re: Going rich coming off the 2 step
 
Not everyone in Stock leaves on the floor......I don't know exactly what the OP has for a combo....I'm just saying there are a lot of things to adjust, depending on the combo

littlemanjoe 08-08-2024 04:40 PM

Re: Going rich coming off the 2 step
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pmrphil (Post 701199)
Squirters and pumps cannot affect readings after your foot is on the floor on the chip, unless you leave while still moving your foot. :confused:

I stage the car and then smash the gas to the floor while obviously holding the brake. When it's time to launch the car, I release the brake.

So squirters and pumps are not in play for me.


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