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Rob Petrie E395 04-08-2023 03:00 PM

2 step question
 
Is it legal to have the 2 step mounted close enough to the driver. That it can be adjusted while strapped into the car? Mines on the passenger floorboard. But I’d like to move it closer. So if need to adjust it at the last second I can without taking the belts off. It’s a stocker if that matters.

older racer 04-08-2023 08:16 PM

Re: 2 step question
 
according to section 8.3, says no. just food for thought

Coleydog 04-09-2023 01:05 PM

Re: 2 step question
 
I’d still like to know the advantage of using the 2 step in stock? I used it with and without a trans brake with a delay box in bracket racing

MR DERBY CITY 04-09-2023 01:35 PM

Re: 2 step question
 
There is absolutely no advantage in using a two step in stock eliminator. If there was the whiny azz chicken chits would have it outlawed and rulebooked out of existence. YOU whiny azz chicken chits KNOW who you are. They operate by the principal of ….If I don’t use it ,it shouldn’t be LEGAL ….

Rob Petrie E395 04-09-2023 01:38 PM

Re: 2 step question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Coleydog (Post 678654)
I’d still like to know the advantage of using the 2 step in stock? I used it with and without a trans brake with a delay box in bracket racing

Consistency in starting line RPM. I can also use it to adjust my reaction times. If I’m really amped up and can’t get out to let air out of the front tires. I can click the 2 step RPM down one or two clicks and it’ll slow my reaction times down. It’s also easier and more consistent (for me). To hold the accelerator to the floor. And just let go of the brake pedal. Vs swapping feet. I’ve been told it’s easier on the convertor but harder on valve train. So take your pick there I guess.



Older racer. Thank you. I thought there was a rule against having it adjustable from the drivers seat. But couldn’t find it. Thought the rule might have gotten changed when I couldn’t find it in the rule book.

J.R. Haddad 04-09-2023 01:38 PM

Re: 2 step question
 
Consistent leaves at start line without having to look at tach, thus taking away concentration at a very important time. Some cars are quicker ET wise with a two-step than off the brake. Make reaction time a little more adjustable. Those are some reasons. There are many more.

J.R.

darrellbargeron 04-09-2023 02:04 PM

Re: 2 step question
 
On stockers:

What rpm do you guys typically set your starting line rpm on your 2 step?

Dave Gantz 04-10-2023 10:02 PM

Re: 2 step question
 
With a carb anyway, the car may leave differently with the throttle wide open, and rpm controlled by the two-step versus leaving with the throttle open just enough to hold a given rpm, or even from an idle.
Tuning may affect these possibilities, I've never tested the two methods.

Andy Friar 04-11-2023 07:09 AM

Re: 2 step question
 
[QUOTE=Rob Petrie E395;678659]Consistency in starting line RPM. I can also use it to adjust my reaction times. If I’m really amped up and can’t get out to let air out of the front tires. I can click the 2 step RPM down one or two clicks and it’ll slow my reaction times down. It’s also easier and more consistent (for me). To hold the accelerator to the floor. And just let go of the brake pedal. Vs swapping feet. I’ve been told it’s easier on the convertor but harder on valve train. So take your pick there I guess.

My Dad wants to make changes like this after 'missing' a RT. I do everything I can do to not make changes to the car for RT as I don't feel I as a human I am consistent enough to say that dropping a few PSI out of the tires or changing launch rpm is the solution. Practice and routine is always preached by the hitters that win a lot of racers. Box or No Box racers. To me changing mechanical components along with human variability just adds another variable to the equation. If it does 'work' on a few runs to get a better RT, can I then actually say it was the mechanical change or me just doing a better job? I don't feel I can make that call. Could just be my misguided theory too, as I have won nothing...

Lenny5160_v2 04-11-2023 02:09 PM

Re: 2 step question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy Friar (Post 678721)
I do everything I can do to not make changes to the car for RT as I don't feel I as a human I am consistent enough to say that dropping a few PSI out of the tires or changing launch rpm is the solution.

Sometimes the psychological impact of a change can be just as (or more) important as the actual mechanical change.


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