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DustyLowell 12-10-2007 01:26 PM

New Ahfs Posted
 
Its posted on the Lucas Oil site.

Bruce Noland 12-10-2007 03:36 PM

Re: New Ahfs Posted
 
They are asking for racer input about the changes.

Dave Ribeiro 12-10-2007 04:56 PM

Re: New Ahfs Posted
 
Dusty/ Bruce,

I see they aren't going to touch the factored tracks at all during National events..So they can set records and run as far under as they want with no-HP...Yep that sure seems fair... Why can't they correct this problem ???? Dave...1033/stock

Just Observing 12-10-2007 05:30 PM

Re: New Ahfs Posted
 
Anybody else think the higher number of runs versus a lower threshold for HP is plain old stupid?

The oddball combos will never get HP and the most common ones(Chevy) will get hammered. Lynn McCarty must have came up with that load of crap!

PJ305 12-10-2007 05:42 PM

Re: New Ahfs Posted
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Observing (Post 50125)
Anybody else think the higher number of runs versus a lower threshold for HP is plain old stupid?

The oddball combos will never get HP and the most common ones(GM) will get hammered. Lynn McCarty must have came up with that load of crap!

If you have this new system figured out please post some examples on how it works for us stupid people? Thank You.

Just Observing 12-10-2007 06:50 PM

Re: New Ahfs Posted
 
I am not claiming I got it figured out, but here is my understanding of the sliding thresh hold.


Racer #1 GT/CA 350 295/322 chevy combo ( A very common combo)

Racer #2 GT/CA 400 Pontiac ( A very rare combo)

These two guys duke it out at both the US nats and Sports nats at Columbus. Both racers go -1.150 under in the class finals at both races. Thus triggering a review under the "new" AHFS.

Since racer #1 combo is very common and there are several runs in the database, say 25, if this combo average is only -.800 under then it would get HP on the sliding scale AHFS.

While Racer #2 with a rare combo and less than 5 runs in the database has to be -1.00 under to get HP! Racer #2 could go to a third race and slow down his car to qualify at only -.69 under to lower his average to below the -1.00 threshold.

In my opinion it should be the exact opposite of what is proposed. Low # of runs in Database should have a lower threshold to recieve HP compared to High # of runs in the database should be a higher threshold to recieve HP.

Rod Greene 12-10-2007 07:00 PM

Re: New Ahfs Posted
 
Finally something that makes sense. This should help level the playing field for the non GM cars.

PJ305 12-10-2007 07:09 PM

Re: New Ahfs Posted
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Observing (Post 50134)
I am not claiming I got it figured out, but here is my understanding of the sliding thresh hold.


Racer #1 GT/CA 350 295/322 chevy combo ( A very common combo)

Racer #2 GT/CA 400 Pontiac ( A very rare combo)

These two guys duke it out at both the US nats and Sports nats at Columbus. Both racers go -1.150 under in the class finals at both races. Thus triggering a review under the "new" AHFS.

Since racer #1 combo is very common and there are several runs in the database, say 25, if this combo average is only -.800 under then it would get HP on the sliding scale AHFS.

While Racer #2 with a rare combo and less than 5 runs in the database has to be -1.00 under to get HP! Racer #2 could go to a third race and slow down his car to qualify at only -.69 under to lower his average to below the -1.00 threshold.

In my opinion it should be the exact opposite of what is proposed. Low # of runs in Database should have a lower threshold to recieve HP compared to High # of runs in the database should be a higher threshold to recieve HP.

Not positive but i don't think the AHFS will alow the same driver too use the third race toward his average. Maybe Len can chime in and shed some light on this.

Greg Hill 12-10-2007 07:17 PM

Re: New Ahfs Posted
 
I like the fact that they are going to include all runs at National events including all class runs. Some of these guys that have been protecting their combinations are going to have to decide if they want to win class or continue to protect their combos. This should make the AHFS work better than before.

As far as the class averages go I didn't see anything wrong with the old way of doing things. Average must be 1 second under to get horsepower.

Greg

Chuck Beach 12-10-2007 10:15 PM

Re: New Ahfs Posted
 
I don't think you can lower your own average, ask Mr. Hale about that, his 383 got hit, he was the only car and combo.


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