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oldskool 10-25-2021 05:59 PM

Stock Auto Trans Rule Change History ?
 
Hey guys, in NHRA, what was the 1st year a combo that came with ONLY a 2-speed auto trans, could use a 3-speed auto trans ?

Common example would be the PG Chevy combos that could then use a TH350, because of the new trans rule.

For those of you who had some 1st hand experience with a Chevy PG equipped Stocker combo, that switched over to a TH350, what was the aprox ET change ?

Aprox how much quicker is a common Chevy Stocker combo with a 200 trans, than with a 350 trans ? I'm talkin about both trans having the very latest & quickest upgrades. Another way to ask it may be: How much quicker is the best currently available 200 trans vs the best currently available 350 trans in, let's say, a popular sbc Stocker combo ?

Thanks to those who have the time & will relate their experience in this area !

Angelo DiTocco 10-25-2021 06:08 PM

Re: Stock Auto Trans Rule Change History ?
 
Another way to ask it may be: How much quicker is the best currently available 200 trans vs the best currently available 350 trans in, let's say, a popular sbc Stocker combo ?

Thanks to those who have the time & will relate their experience in this area ![/QUOTE]

Hi
The short answer is - pretty darn close..... the difference ends up coming down to the combination of first and second gear ratios that work best for you.... the (high end) 350's have a few more of these combos available than the 200 does... The other factor is, of course, how much experimenting you are willing or able to do.

Mark Yacavone 10-25-2021 09:52 PM

Re: Stock Auto Trans Rule Change History ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Angelo DiTocco (Post 650742)
Another way to ask it may be: How much quicker is the best currently available 200 trans vs the best currently available 350 trans in, let's say, a popular sbc Stocker combo ?

Thanks to those who have the time & will relate their experience in this area !

Hi
The short answer is - pretty darn close..... the difference ends up coming down to the combination of first and second gear ratios that work best for you.... the (high end) 350's have a few more of these combos available than the 200 does... The other factor is, of course, how much experimenting you are willing or able to do.

I don't remember the exact year but it was in the last decade.
S/S was first, then Stock, then 4 speed stick shifts. (oh yeah, then clutchless in S/S)
The 3 speed deal wasn't put in to benefit the little guy with a 67 Camaro..Trust me.

I would say that if you took a 350 and put in a 2.75 low , an aluminum direct drum, and were really good with a lathe, you could come pretty close to an entry level 200 like I build.
The Pro Trans and the Coan are in a different league. As Ange said, lots of different ratios available too.

oldskool 10-26-2021 12:17 AM

Re: Stock Auto Trans Rule Change History ?
 
" I don't remember the exact year but it was in the last decade..."

So, for a popular sbc combo that previously had to run a PG, aprox how much quicker could they run, with a good 3-speed ? Hey, I'm just assuming they ran quicker.

I know that lots of bracket racers run a Glide, for consistency & less traction problems. Just assume that most former PG Stock racers choose to now run a 3-speed. Is this correct ?

Mark Yacavone 10-26-2021 01:03 AM

Re: Stock Auto Trans Rule Change History ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by oldskool (Post 650772)
" I don't remember the exact year but it was in the last decade..."

So, for a popular sbc combo that previously had to run a PG, aprox how much quicker could they run, with a good 3-speed ? Hey, I'm just assuming they ran quicker.

I know that lots of bracket racers run a Glide, for consistency & less traction problems. Just assume that most former PG Stock racers choose to now run a 3-speed. Is this correct ?

How much quicker? Usually some, if you can hook it.

Most PG's are now 200's except for maybe 67 oval port Corvette.

Gmirza 10-26-2021 09:32 PM

Re: Stock Auto Trans Rule Change History ?
 
The rule change was around 1990. Give or take a year.

MR DERBY CITY 10-26-2021 09:40 PM

Re: Stock Auto Trans Rule Change History ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gmirza (Post 650846)
The rule change was around 1990. Give or take a year.

Sorry George, but you are WAY off …..

oldskool 10-26-2021 09:41 PM

Re: Stock Auto Trans Rule Change History ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gmirza (Post 650846)
The rule change was around 1990. Give or take a year.

Just curious, were most PG users quick to change over ?

Or, were there a lot who wanted to stay with their PG ?

Were there some of the heavy hitters that did a lot of testing, before switching over ?

It just seems like this was one of those major Stock rule changes, & since I was not involved, I wonder how big of a deal it really was, for the PG racers, back when it happened.

Mark Yacavone 10-26-2021 11:36 PM

Re: Stock Auto Trans Rule Change History ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by oldskool (Post 650849)
Just curious, were most PG users quick to change over ?

Or, were there a lot who wanted to stay with their PG ?

Were there some of the heavy hitters that did a lot of testing, before switching over ?

It just seems like this was one of those major Stock rule changes, & since I was not involved, I wonder how big of a deal it really was, for the PG racers, back when it happened.

You can bet your azz the guys with 67-8 327 /275 Camaros were quick to change over.
The three speed 350 LT 1 cars started at 275 also...They are now 340 something...
The 327s are at 270!

Stan Weiss 10-27-2021 12:10 AM

Re: Stock Auto Trans Rule Change History ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 650856)
You can bet your azz the guys with 67-8 327 /275 Camaros were quick to change over.
The three speed 350 LT 1 cars started at 275 also...They are now 340 something...
The 327s are at 270!


Mark,
Who makes these ratios?



Stan


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