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Floyd Staggs 06-16-2021 08:54 PM

Weight transfer
 
How do these stock and super stockers get so much weight transfer to stand up as far as they do?

Frank Castros 06-16-2021 09:06 PM

Re: Weight transfer
 
Stock; Clatracs and Hoosier radials.
Super Stock; Holt Chassis, or?

e vassar 06-16-2021 10:35 PM

Re: Weight transfer
 
Build the car light as possible. Then add back necessary weight over back wheels. 3 speed trans, 5:13 gear, stiff sidewall radial slicks.
There I've given away all the secrets.

SSDiv6 06-16-2021 10:40 PM

Re: Weight transfer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by e vassar (Post 642140)
Build the car light as possible. Then add back necessary weight over back wheels. 3 speed trans, 5:13 gear, stiff sidewall radial slicks.
There I've given away all the secrets.

Except, if you know what you are doing, you don't put weight over the rear wheels...
3-speed trans don't have anything to do with wheel stands either. There are lots of cars out there with a powerglide that will drag the bumper during the launch.

Rusty Davenport 06-17-2021 08:38 AM

Re: Weight transfer
 
The best reply I know of is simply ......POWER-POWER-POWER. You can play the converter games, the traction experimentation and fooling with people that think they are racecar gurus but usually do not know much more than you do. If you have the proven power all the other stuff will come with some work.

Mark Yacavone 06-17-2021 12:41 PM

Re: Weight transfer
 
400 lbs. in the back sure helps...even with a 4 cylinder.


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Dragsinger 06-17-2021 01:55 PM

Re: Weight transfer
 
Floyd,

Some of the wheelie is because of front springs and smooth moving front suspension components. All stockers and most super stockers retain the OE front suspension to employ a tall spring with stored energy.

In addition, in many cases, they use quality, double adjustable shocks.

The Caltracks that many stockers use perform much like a ladder bar and most of the SS cars have a four-link that allows some tuning of the wheelie.

You already know it is not magic, just attention to detail.

killintime6968 06-17-2021 02:32 PM

Re: Weight transfer
 
If you want to put it on the back bumper, put it at the back bumper. To keep it under control keep it at or near the axle center line

Race Clean 06-17-2021 02:32 PM

Re: Weight transfer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by e vassar (Post 642140)
Build the car light as possible. Then add back necessary weight over back wheels. 3 speed trans, 5:13 gear, stiff sidewall radial slicks.
There I've given away all the secrets.

I was at the houston National race in 89 and saw Randy Heer do crazy wheelies in Stock back then,remember that was 15/20 years before light wheel brakes and 10 years before light weight seats, no other Stockers really lifted the wheels back then..well RJ's Fairlane did to some extend but not like Randy's..
I crawled under the car to find basically stock leaf springs and nothing fancy at all..
In a A/SA 427 with steel heads back then it's hard to believe he had a good front to back weight ratio....
So my conclusion 30 years later is that if you find the sweet spot(for wheel stands in this case) nothing else really matters..not that all thing suggested help,ofcourse they do....but sometimes it just works... other ways!

p.s. Randy's Camaro did not looked worked on at the time...it was kinda rusty below..like left alone for 10-15 years..(I could be really wrong here) and I remember James Caro getting better et's with his Challenger but not looking quiet as exiting down the track!

devo340 06-17-2021 04:46 PM

Re: Weight transfer
 
Would you say most Stockers are 50/50 or better?


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