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GallopinGhost 06-24-2015 06:41 AM

Roll cage door bar and window crank
 
Ok, so on my e-body I carefully installed the door bar to clear the door handle and somehow didn't give any thought for clearance for the window crank being able to revolve. Obviously I can open the door to roll up or down the window. Is this legal ? I may redo the door bar anyway, just wondering how this is viewed. thanks

Mark Markow 06-24-2015 08:59 AM

Re: Roll cage door bar and window crank
 
on gm cars I have used the vent window crank from a 67 Camaro. it's much smaller the than the window crank.

buzzinhalfdozen 06-24-2015 09:04 AM

Re: Roll cage door bar and window crank
 
would converting it to power windows be out of the question? It's easily done on most cars...a bit more work but more convenient. Joe

FireSale 06-24-2015 10:26 AM

Re: Roll cage door bar and window crank
 
Same issue on my 68 Mustang. I put an aftermarket crank from Lokar on it mostly for looks and the stock one was shot. I have to pop the door to crank the window and watch where it is when I close it, but it's mostly a race car.

The trick is to close the door with the crank off and the window up, then position the crank so that the window can be cracked up and down to cuss at the starter without opening the door.

Dale

GallopinGhost 06-24-2015 11:05 AM

Re: Roll cage door bar and window crank
 
Yeah, you never know when you need to yell at someone. haha

an electric motor would do, need to think about that.

maybe the smaller crank would work

Quote:

Originally Posted by FireSale (Post 474630)
Same issue on my 68 Mustang. I put an aftermarket crank from Lokar on it mostly for looks and the stock one was shot. I have to pop the door to crank the window and watch where it is when I close it, but it's mostly a race car.

The trick is to close the door with the crank off and the window up, then position the crank so that the window can be cracked up and down to cuss at the starter without opening the door.

Dale


Mike Taylor 3601 06-25-2015 08:39 AM

Re: Roll cage door bar and window crank
 
I have to have my windows working,maybe it's just me but can't stand to drive something that window or door doesn't work correctly,if I had to open door to roll down window,it would aggravate me LOL. other pet peeve is,it drives me nuts to drive a car on the street that is missing side or rear view mirror.
Mike Taylor 3601

Ed Wright 06-25-2015 11:08 AM

Re: Roll cage door bar and window crank
 
I had & kept my power windows. Very nice to be able to get some air through the car while strapped in. Just roll them up as I roll into the water box. I could not reach across to crank the passenger side up while strapped in. Much easier all around. I have weighed both power & manual doors. Within 2 lbs of each other.

GallopinGhost 06-25-2015 03:00 PM

Re: Roll cage door bar and window crank
 
Without a doubt, it doesn't make sense to put a ton of money and time into a car and can't roll down the dang window. I have a S&W roll cage kit in it, and while it's a nice cage, the door bar is a PITA to climb over. I think I'll put a swing out kit on the drivers side and make sure it clears the handles. Probably should have listened to one of my "advisers" and put in the swing out bar in the first place.......

Ed Wright 06-25-2015 06:51 PM

Re: Roll cage door bar and window crank
 
I have swing-out bars too. Makes working inside, under the dash, etc, possible. I put the pins in for tech, and before getting in to run. You get used to crawling over the bars eventually.

FireSale 06-25-2015 06:57 PM

Re: Roll cage door bar and window crank
 
I'm not going to question the safety aspect of the NHRA rulebook as I know the cage specs come from the folks at SFI, but you just can't have a crash bar that crosses the designated body points in the specs and operate a manual window crank. An electric kit for my Mustang would set me back something like $700. It's a 68 coupe and that seems to matter somehow.

Dale


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