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Mike Graham 01-18-2014 01:18 PM

Valve spring for cam break in
 
Looking for input on breaking in a stocker cam.
240@.050 .380 lift. Can I get bye with valve springs with about 70 or 80lbs in the seat for break in?

randy wilson 01-18-2014 01:47 PM

Re: Valve spring for cam break in
 
Yes, use a break in oil, or a high zinc content petroleum oil. 1.3 rockers are the best to use, but you should be fine. I always run 2 extra quarts in the pan for break in for the splash effect. But, that's just me.

carl hinkson 01-18-2014 02:51 PM

Re: Valve spring for cam break in
 
Short rockers are an option but will not work if the push rod holes have not been clearance.

What are your seat and over the nose pressures?/

I build a lot of circle track engines with 135 at the seat and 320 over the nose HYD cam and with 1.5 rockers never had an issue so far.

I do use a P-55 cam core and GM lifters with the steel bottoms.

Mike Graham 01-18-2014 02:59 PM

Re: Valve spring for cam break in
 
My main concern if if this pressure it too low for controlling the valvetrain during breakin.
This cam is very aggressive looking. Fast opening rate,almost flat at full lift.
I am changing to a different spring after breakin.

Glenn Briglio 01-18-2014 06:17 PM

Re: Valve spring for cam break in
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by randy wilson (Post 416996)
Yes, use a break in oil, or a high zinc content petroleum oil. 1.3 rockers are the best to use, but you should be fine. I always run 2 extra quarts in the pan for break in for the splash effect. But, that's just me.

Two extra quarts? Are you aerating the oil doing this?

carl hinkson 01-18-2014 08:10 PM

Re: Valve spring for cam break in
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by randy wilson (Post 416996)
Yes, use a break in oil, or a high zinc content petroleum oil. 1.3 rockers are the best to use, but you should be fine. I always run 2 extra quarts in the pan for break in for the splash effect. But, that's just me.

I don't think I would ever do this a lot of years building engines and never heard of this, There should be plenty of splash with out over filling an engine with oil.

randy wilson 01-18-2014 08:30 PM

Re: Valve spring for cam break in
 
I've done it, but never rev the motor past 3,000 rpm. No one recommended it to me, I've just used it, and had no ill effects in maybe 5 engines. After 20 min. I drain it all out, and install the correct amount. No one has to do it, it's just what I prefer to do.

Mike Graham 01-18-2014 09:30 PM

Re: Valve spring for cam break in
 
The question is more about if the valve spring pressure is high enough for a stock eliminator cam.

Jim Hanig 01-18-2014 11:55 PM

Re: Valve spring for cam break in
 
What type engine cleveland windsor, cleveland 90 to 110 seat 275 open 115 /275

Bill Diehl 01-19-2014 09:45 AM

Re: Valve spring for cam break in
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Graham (Post 417059)
The question is more about if the valve spring pressure is high enough for a stock eliminator cam.

It does not take much pressure to control the valvetrain at 3000rpm or so, but .........I am all ears, I would like to see what others are doing also


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