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brian schuetta 10-15-2013 09:50 AM

1 Piece Seal Crank
 
Is there a disadvantage or advantage to using a 1 piece rear seal crank? Found a 1 piece core 305 and wanted to use it in my car which was originally a 2 piece. Would an older 74 - 80 305 core be better?

richie 2 10-15-2013 11:23 AM

Re: 1 Piece Seal Crank
 
whats the application?

brian schuetta 10-15-2013 04:22 PM

Re: 1 Piece Seal Crank
 
83' 305, 416 head, ft piston, Camaro

Lew Silverman 10-15-2013 06:19 PM

Re: 1 Piece Seal Crank
 
As I understand it, the way the rules are now written for Stock, you have to use the original OEM crankshaft for the year and horsepower claimed for your vehicle. There are a few aftermarket blocks that are acceptable, at least for the SBC, but the original crankshaft has to fit.

I may be misinformed, but as it stands now, no late-model blocks and cranks in early-model chassis.

Mike Taylor 3601 10-16-2013 10:14 AM

Re: 1 Piece Seal Crank
 
As far as I know could use 1pc or 2 pc seal block and be legal.
1 pc. uses different flex/flywheel is external balance on rear and has different bolt pattern.
I have converted several to internal balance takes about 1'' heavy metal usaully depending on bobweight.
the reason they are external balance on the rear is when flywheel flange is made round it loses that extra flange that is counterweight
Mike Taylor 3601

brian schuetta 10-16-2013 12:06 PM

Re: 1 Piece Seal Crank
 
Any comments on strength of the newer block and 1 piece seal crank? The engine is tore down to the short block, it had 187 heads on it. It's layin there and the price is right.

Steve Williams 10-16-2013 07:39 PM

Re: 1 Piece Seal Crank
 
One piece rear main production blocks are junk if they have lots of miles on them. I have thrown away a few dozen blocks that would not clean up at .060 over. I have also found ones that would clean up at .060, but the wall was too thin on the thrust side. I am not trying to discourage the use these blocks, but a thorough inspection of the block is a must before even considering purchasing any parts. Two piece parts are easy to find, cheap and it is internally balanced. Whats not to like about that?

Tim H 10-16-2013 07:51 PM

Re: 1 Piece Seal Crank
 
Also have seen 1 pc style blocks with cracks in the lifter valley. Never really seen that in any of the mid 1970's or older blocks ? Castings were thinner in that area I believe.

Mike Taylor 3601 10-17-2013 08:27 AM

Re: 1 Piece Seal Crank
 
The first versions of the one piece block 86,cracked like crazy in lifter valley, GM then made changes to correct,after that 1 pc blocks don't seem to crack any worse than the 2 pc blocks. Most of blocks you find cracked in lifter valley have been frozen,that is first place they bust when they freeze,then if froze more bust right below deck on outside.

Whatever block you use you need to check throughly,there are good and bad in all of them old or new.
Mike Taylor 3601

brian schuetta 10-17-2013 09:24 AM

Re: 1 Piece Seal Crank
 
Will check any block I use but I think we will try to trade this thing or go find a 2 piece. I have had trouble finding a 305 core already out of a car. 10 years ago you could trip over these things, now none of the local shops are keeping or taking them in. Found some in the junkyard last week attached to transmissions both L and H codes.


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