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Bob Letellier 07-30-2012 08:52 PM

LT1 Engine Issues
 
Was hoping to get some advice from a few guys who have Lt1 motors for the Firebirds. Need some recommendations on what computer(s) / programs need to be used to make the car run properly. Car runs great then starts skipping like the timing is completely off...

Please contact me here or send me a PM. --

joelster 07-30-2012 08:56 PM

Re: LT1 Engine Issues
 
Are you running the factory pcm? Does it skip when going into closed loop, but run great in open loop?

Bob Letellier 07-30-2012 09:01 PM

Re: LT1 Engine Issues
 
Running HOLLEY - Seems like the map sensor is sending the wrong signal - but we've replaced it.

Ed Wright 07-30-2012 09:18 PM

Re: LT1 Engine Issues
 
I used the factory PCM until I got my old bracket engine needing to go past 7000 RPM. That's about all they will rev. Ran faster than my SS LT1 runs. Should not be doing what you discribe. Don't just throw sensors at it. Learn to diagnose it.

As for an aftermarket stand alone I use the FAST XFI in my car. Many use BigStuff3. I have tuned both those and several others. Any of them will work.

Bob Letellier 07-30-2012 09:20 PM

Re: LT1 Engine Issues
 
Thanks for the advice I'll look into it and let you know how it turns out. Appreciate it!

Rich Biebel 07-30-2012 09:27 PM

Re: LT1 Engine Issues
 
Distributers on those have a bad reputation. Might be worth a look in there.

On my car I used a stock distributer and removed all the optispark stuff.

MSD cap and rotor with a Crank trigger....

Accel Gen VII .....It has way more options than is needed in a racecar but is tunable and I also had a data logger that I added on....

joelster 07-31-2012 07:22 AM

Re: LT1 Engine Issues
 
In your first post you said the car "runs great" then it starts skipping like the timing is completely off. When an o2 sensor goes bad, the car will fire right up and run normal but after 2-3 minutes when it is warm, it will go into closed loop, and the pcm will look at the o2 data and make changes. If the o2 or o2's are seeing false air, or if they are faulty (they ARE a maintenance item) your car will run horrible. You can diagnose this with a tech2 scanner or similar. If you suspect it to be o2's but don't have access to a scanner, let the car warm up and go into closed loop and run rough for a minute. Then jack the car up and unplug the o2's which will put it back into open loop mode. Most race cars are run in open loop anyways. They use o2 data for datalogging, but not to adjust fuel trims.

FWIW an o2 sensor should be replaced at about ~50,000 miles. Some cars need them replaced sooner. My car went through a set of them in about 15,000 miles. A rich tune will accelerate their failure.

EDIT- as mentioned in post #6 the opti's get a bad reputation, but from what I've seen and experienced, people throw the blame on the opti way more often then what it deserves. There is a great diagnostic method for checking your opti out on shbox.com

Ed Wright 07-31-2012 12:18 PM

Re: LT1 Engine Issues
 
If you have a crank trigger, I had a pickup do that when it warmed up. I use an MSD. Now I carry a spare. :-) If you don't use a crank trigger you should. The optical sensor in the Optispark doesn't like high RPM. Had a problem with that too until the crank trigger.

nolongerracing 07-31-2012 01:29 PM

Re: LT1 Engine Issues
 
Bob....you have a PM

Bob Letellier 08-01-2012 05:59 PM

Re: LT1 Engine Issues
 
Thanks for all the Replies - i'll let you know what the issue turns out to be after I look it over this weekend.


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