NHRA LODRS Divisional payout info?
 

Just wondering wha tthe round money and payouts are for an NHRA Div'l race? IHRA publishes their's in Drag Review (not a great payout format), but I never see NHRA's listed. Just wondering. Thanks.

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Here's the D2 payout info....other divisions will vary some (for entry fees especially) and D2 is doing the "unleashed" classes again.

http://www.nhradiv2.com/content/gene...137&zoneid=161

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Here's the division 1 payout. Probably the same this year I would imagine:

http://www.nhradiv1.com/content/gene...203&zoneid=147


Division 7:

http://www.nhradiv7.com/apcm/APCMvie...rint=yes1%20of


-Toby

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I always figured it was up to the track`s descretion. I remember losing in the semis of Stock at the Denver points meet in `96 and received $225(5 round race,$85 or so entry). Then 6 years later lost in the semis again and received $125(6 round race and $150 entry). It`s gotten better since then.

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You are probably right, Lane. I would imagine each track could payout whatever they want to. These payout schedules are probably just guidelines. I think most tracks follow them though.


-Toby

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Seems the national event contingency is down. No Edelbrock,Impact ,Lucas or Valvoline listed in Dragster. Maybe later?

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Wow. Looking at some of the posted payout information, round money is really bad for both HRA's.

http://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCStory.asp?ID=244470

If all IHRA Pro-Am's pay out like this, no wonder hardly anyone goes.

In regards to Toby Lang's link, in 2011 at an NHRA Div 1 LODRS race, I'd get $25 LESS than I did ten years ago for a fourth round loss, and the entry fee is $45 MORE.


Makes a race like Hagerstown look better and better...

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The tracks and sanctioning bodies each have operating expenses, not to mention some reasonable expectation of profit. Please offer suggestions for an entry fee/payout schedule that achieves the same bottom line.

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Using current entry vs payout ratios in NHRA and IHRA, using a 63 car field in Stock

IHRA 63 cars x 135 per car = $8,505 taken in.
Payouts (round money plus Win and R/U) = $2,840 (3,040 in Super Stock); 33.3% payout of entry fees; IHRA keeps $5,665

Since the five lower Sportsman Eliminators (Stk, S/S, Q/R, S/R and H/R) are the same payouts (+/- $200), IHRA at that race would make, approximately, $27,500 per race, per day, based on entry fee at the gate vs payout. $55,000 for the weekend. Not counting the $40 per crew member for the weekend. This sounds great, unless the cost of the track and IHRA for the weekend is over $60K to put those events on. It would seem that IHRA could be better served to up the round money a bit (currently, you need to get to the fifth round to break even or a little better for your day's entry) to help possibly draw more cars and make the money back that they put into the payout.

BTW, NHRA, based on the same 63 cars, takes in $10,710 (@ $170 per car) and pay out $3,900, keeping $6,810, making their race a 36.1% payback race. Not much better.

Obviously, IHRA and the track probably made little, to nothing (probably lost money), on the Immokalee races. Though I do believe the low car counts are a reflection of the low round money paid out. A racer from up here would tow 1,200 miles one way there to race, make it to the 4th round both days (if it were a six round race), and actually lose money (won $240, paid $270 to race). A person, even those who love to race, would look at that scenario and say "Nah, I'll pass".

I think if IHRA were to increase the round money, or lower the entry fee a bit (getting to the third round gets you your entry fee back) would be a plus to perhaps draw more cars to compete.

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Since I am not a racer but just a fan my question is how do national events and divisional payouts compare to specialty events? Like the dutch or a s/ss association race? Is there a way for the tracks to get more local sponsors so they can up the payouts to draw more cars? That's really the only way the hra's can survive and expand is more draw of competitors while not losing the ones you have.