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Marc Kinton 05-12-2010 06:21 AM

Another turbo ?
 
Ok, we got the air/fuel ratio installed and I'm getting a reading of 11.2 or so on the O2. I'm assuming this means the car is too lean? I have heard we were looking for mid 12's on this reading. Two part question, am I correct that it is too lean and do I just adjust fuel pressure for this or fuel and timing? This is a 4 cylinder turbo ford combo stocker.

Bill Grubbs 05-12-2010 07:27 AM

Re: Another turbo ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc Kinton (Post 186936)
Ok, we got the air/fuel ratio installed and I'm getting a reading of 11.2 or so on the O2. I'm assuming this means the car is too lean? I have heard we were looking for mid 12's on this reading. Two part question, am I correct that it is too lean and do I just adjust fuel pressure for this or fuel and timing? This is a 4 cylinder turbo ford combo stocker.

To rich... 11.2 parts of air to 1 part fuel. I have found 12.8 or so seems to make the best power (12.8 or 13.0 parts air to one part fuel). I hope this helps.

Oh, and to some extent it is better to be a little rich than lean...but you knew that.

Bill

buzzinhalfdozen 05-12-2010 08:31 AM

Re: Another turbo ?
 
You didn't say when you're seeing this AFR. Under load, Idleing? 12's under full load on a turbo setup sounds a bit on the lean side, however I'm surew that there are a few turbo racers on this forum that can help. Joe

Ed Wright 05-13-2010 01:27 PM

Re: Another turbo ?
 
I have only tuned street cars with turbos, but those won't live long leaner than 12.0-1.
Mid elevens works well, and leaner shows very little power increase with a turbo.
12.8-1 & 13-1 are normally aspirated numbers.

Jim Wahl 05-13-2010 01:38 PM

Re: Another turbo ?
 
11.2 A/F in a turbo race motor under load is ok. Better too rich that too lean, especially a turbo engine! You would be surprised how quickly those pistons go from being a solid to a liquid! Jim

LNorton 05-13-2010 04:26 PM

Re: Another turbo ?
 
Marc, shot you a message on FB. Get back at me!

Jimi B 05-14-2010 08:45 PM

Re: Another turbo ?
 
Just backing up what others have said. Mid 11s is about where you wanna be on higher octane pump fuels. Around 12:1 or so on higher octane race fuels. There is a lot to play with afrs on spool as well, but in a drag car this is not going to be that usefull.. Especially if its a stock turbo, prob spooling fairly well anyway..

MOTORSPORTS Innovations 05-17-2010 07:03 PM

Re: Another turbo ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by buzzinhalfdozen (Post 186951)
You didn't say when you're seeing this AFR. Under load, Idleing? 12's under full load on a turbo setup sounds a bit on the lean side, however I'm surew that there are a few turbo racers on this forum that can help. Joe

that's the question - how much boost? My car drops more than 2 whole numbers from 12.x staging to 9.x @ 18 lbs boost.

Jimi B 05-17-2010 11:23 PM

Re: Another turbo ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MOTORSPORTS Innovations (Post 187920)
that's the question - how much boost? My car drops more than 2 whole numbers from 12.x staging to 9.x @ 18 lbs boost.

Why?

Harry 6674 05-19-2010 12:04 PM

Re: Another turbo ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MOTORSPORTS Innovations (Post 187920)
that's the question - how much boost? My car drops more than 2 whole numbers from 12.x staging to 9.x @ 18 lbs boost.

Lots a variables. Tell us about your setup.


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