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junior barns 08-14-2009 05:06 PM

tranny gov shift ?
 
I have a rossler with auto 1-2 shift the gov was set to shift at 5800 with a 275 low gear.

what will this gov shift at with a 252 low gear??? Would have asked mr. rossler but they are closed til monday!!

Thanks in advance!

Tony Curcio 08-14-2009 07:04 PM

Re: tranny gov shift ?
 
I never thought about it before, but I think it's a mathematical equivalency equation.

2.52 is .916 of 2.75, which means the output shaft is turning that much slower. So now the engine has to turn that much faster to get the governor spinning fast enough to make the shift. Divide 5800 by .916, you get 6330.

That's an educated guess. Please let me know what you find out for sure.

ss3011 08-14-2009 07:15 PM

Re: tranny gov shift ?
 
The governor shifts the tranny based on the output shaft rpm. That rpm will be the same but because the first gear ratio is 2.5 compared to 2.75. The engine will be turning slower at the shift point.

Tony Curcio 08-14-2009 07:16 PM

Re: tranny gov shift ?
 
Wait, I think I got it backward. The numerically lower gear makes the output shaft spin faster at a given engine rpm, so you multiply 5800 by .916 and get 5312.

Tony Curcio 08-14-2009 07:18 PM

Re: tranny gov shift ?
 
Looks like we were posting at the same time. This was good mental exercise after a brutal day.

ss3011 08-14-2009 07:26 PM

Re: tranny gov shift ?
 
Plus as we shift lower and lower in rpm, the converter will be slipping more, so while the shift point to the output shaft rpm stays the same, the shift point to engine rpm will be different.

Bill Grubbs 08-14-2009 08:33 PM

Re: tranny gov shift ?
 
Don't forget to accout for the difference in acceleration rate. Theoretically it will shift at the same output shaft RPM. However the springs are affected by not only the RPM, but also the rate of acceleration.

I actually have the data on the computer from tests done in 2006, but it is not handy right now.

Bill

Found it 2.75 to 2.52 showed a 225 RPM rise in actual shift points. (Caveat...I believe it was the same springs and weights but I cannot find the setup book and therefore I cannot be 100% sure)

junior barns 08-29-2009 09:15 PM

Re: tranny gov shift ?
 
Bill your records were spot on! Saw a 300 rpm increase in the shift point using the same gov!!

Thanks for all the replies


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