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Tom keedle 07-02-2009 03:28 AM

couple of questions on 8 3/4 mopar rears
 
who's spools/axles do ya like/don't like? (keep in mind this'll be a 3200lb 12-13 sec car) what spline count?

is it legal to put a nice big inspection hole in the housing?

John Dinkel 07-02-2009 07:21 AM

Re: couple of questions on 8 3/4 mopar rears
 
I have had very good luck with Strange. Use the 35 spline axles. They will last for a long time.
You could get the lightend axles and 5/8 wheek studs for a few dollars more.
Good luck.

Myron Piatek 07-02-2009 10:13 AM

Re: couple of questions on 8 3/4 mopar rears
 
I've been using Moser products for years and am very happy with them. 35 spline axles and spool are quite a bit stronger than 30 spline. But it doesn't hurt to have an extra margin of strength. 35 spline are more popular and easier to sell if the need arises. A steel billet yoke is also an extra durable piece because OEM yokes can eventually spread. 12-13 second range vehicle would do well either way.

If you do want to inspect the gears and weld something into the housing, you might as well have it straightened, weld a filler cap near the top which can double as an inspection hole, and consider a brace.

treessavoy 07-02-2009 11:18 AM

Re: couple of questions on 8 3/4 mopar rears
 
I chose the Moser spool and 35 spline axles for my Max Wedge stocker but when I bracket raced the car with a 440 and X-ram I ran stock axles and a stock sure-grip with 11 inch tires and never had a problem running mid to low 11's.

Jim

ET6201 07-02-2009 07:40 PM

Re: couple of questions on 8 3/4 mopar rears
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tomslik (Post 128103)
who's spools/axles do ya like/don't like? (keep in mind this'll be a 3200lb 12-13 sec car) what spline count?

I've used Strange and Moser. Both gave good service in my 3200# mid-11 sec stickshift car. After a few seasons, the gears go bang and the axles have a slight twist. I use an old heavy Henrys spool (lighter would be better). It's all 30-spline, 4" bolt circle stuff.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomslik (Post 128103)
is it legal to put a nice big inspection hole in the housing?

I don't see why not but you'll have to check the rulebook on that one.

By-Run
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help your competitor O-U-T!"

bill dedman 07-03-2009 02:23 PM

Re: couple of questions on 8 3/4 mopar rears
 
I just paid $550.00 for a set of Moser 30-spline axles, and am not very happy with some aspects of them.
Nothing big, but some little stuff that shouldn't have happened, in my opinion, especially from a well-respected company like Moser, who built their reputation with mainly MOPAR components.

To wit:

1. Wheels studs were not fully machined where the screw-in threads end, and have a space that then becomes wheel attachment threads. They wouldn't screw in all the way and I discovered that the empty space between the two sets of threads needed to be machined (turned down smaller) for them to seat fully in the axle flange. Had to have that machined, or they wouldn't screw al the way in. Not doing this would have kept the inner lock-nuts from screwing all the way down to the axle flange material for securing the stud from turning.

2. None of the drilled holes in the flanges were "clean," around the edges. I had to take a chamfer tool and clean up the left-over metal from the drilling process still attached to the edge of the holes.

3. Mopar 8.75" axle flanges have an access hole (and two smaller holes on the opposite side, for balance) to allow a socket/extension to pass through the flange, and engage the five 9/16" nuts that hold the bearing retainer plate secure, so you can quickly and easily remove the axle. These axles were missing those holes, so I took them to a local machine shop and got them "installed"... another expense that I felt should have not been incurred, given the price of these axles.

Otherwise, they seem to be A-1.

Maybe this is nit-picking, but if Moser wants to maintain their excellent reputation, I felt like these items shouldn't have happened.

My 2-cents...

Bill

Myron Piatek 07-03-2009 04:04 PM

Re: couple of questions on 8 3/4 mopar rears
 
For #1, if I understand it correctly, could there be a washer that goes there?

#3 - I don't recall seeing a set of race axles that had the extra holes in the flange, Strange included.

Rod Greene 07-03-2009 05:29 PM

Re: couple of questions on 8 3/4 mopar rears
 
Mark Williams makes the best axles and components. I bought my first set of Williams axles 30 spline in 1974 for use in a 340 stick shift stocker They finally gave up the ghost in the early 90"s. Hard to beat that. Their axles are built for the application not a generic long sline cut off. Only my 2 cents

bill dedman 07-03-2009 07:10 PM

Re: couple of questions on 8 3/4 mopar rears
 
Myron,

The hardware (lug nuts, studs, thick spacer washers, etc.) were all together, in a box, and seemed very complete, but there were no washers for that purpose included. I don't think a washer is a part of that deal.

The holes that were not there might be a strength consideration, but have you ever seen an axle flange break or distort the flange itself, because of a strength issue? I haven't, and don't think that's a viable consideration in this case.

But, I've been wrong before... could be, again...

Thanks for your input!!!

Bill

Tom keedle 07-04-2009 07:54 AM

Re: couple of questions on 8 3/4 mopar rears
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bill dedman (Post 128317)
Myron,

The hardware (lug nuts, studs, thick spacer washers, etc.) were all together, in a box, and seemed very complete, but there were no washers for that purpose included. I don't think a washer is a part of that deal.

The holes that were not there might be a strength consideration, but have you ever seen an axle flange break or distort the flange itself, because of a strength issue? I haven't, and don't think that's a viable consideration in this case.

But, I've been wrong before... could be, again...

Thanks for your input!!!

Bill



i'm thinking you're right,http://www.markwilliams.com/axles.aspx


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