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kingsransomracing 04-08-2009 09:29 PM

Biondo Terminator Button Wiring
 
How are you guys wiring your biondo button to you transbrake solenoid. The biondo button uses a microswitch which is designed to carry < 1A and the solenoid requires 6-8Amps (Griner). Anyone have a schematic (wiring diagram) for how they have theirs hooked up?

SGSST109E 04-08-2009 09:47 PM

Re: Biondo Terminator Button Wiring
 
Just used a relay, let the switch controlthe relay coil. The trans brake runs thru the N.O. contacts

kingsransomracing 04-08-2009 10:10 PM

Re: Biondo Terminator Button Wiring
 
Ok...so something like this:

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...eschematic.jpg

My other thought is if I added a diode between the T-brake solenoid and the line-loc I could eliminate a relay...like this....what do you think?

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...atic_diode.jpg

should I put the revlimiter on the same side as the solenoid?

Bill Harris 04-09-2009 08:20 AM

Re: Biondo Terminator Button Wiring
 
Just so you know, technically, according to the rules, it is illegal to have a relay in the transbrake wiring. Section 8:2 in the rulebook is pretty clear about the acceptable wiring for a transbrake on cars without delay boxes, and it calls for a single continuous wire between the switch and the solenoid, with one splice allowed for the two-step. Additionally, the rules call for the wiring to be completely separate from any other wiring and fully visible.

Now, who knows if any of the tech guys pay any attention to the rule or ever check the transbrake circuit, but they could.

It could be argued that a relay is a delay device since there is a finite amount of time that it takes for the relay to energize/de-energize and if you were really desperate you could test a bunch of different relays from various manufacturers and use the relay to tweek the car's reaction time.

Don't shoot the messenger..

kingsransomracing 04-09-2009 09:01 AM

Re: Biondo Terminator Button Wiring
 
I would be interested to know how all of the super stock guys are doing it then, because the biondo switch isn't designed to power a solenoid directly.

Bill Harris 04-09-2009 09:27 AM

Re: Biondo Terminator Button Wiring
 
Dunno what people are doing, probably whatever they want until someone tells them they shouldn't, which is the usual NHRA procedure.

BTW, the way the rules are written it also makes it illegal to apply the transbrake and the linelock simultaneously since you can only have a single splice specifically for the two-step. Technically this is also true for stockers using a two-step, but I know of people who engage the linelock with the two step (at least they did before the rule change that required the button to be on the brake pedal).

kingsransomracing 04-09-2009 10:46 AM

Re: Biondo Terminator Button Wiring
 
Ok...I have got it figured out....turns out I was reading the microswitch current rating wrong. It states 10A / 125VAC,250VAC & .25A/250VDC .50A/125VDC

In a transbrake situation, the button is only activated for < 5 seconds which can handle 10Amps....so back to an easy circuit with no relays :)

Ed Wright 04-09-2009 10:47 AM

Re: Biondo Terminator Button Wiring
 
Mine has been connected directly for two years with no issues. To do other wise is not legal. Wires direct from the trans brake to the button, all wiring on top of the carpet in plain view, etc.


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